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need4speed



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Agreed.
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leeds



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Whilst the thin 'Sawtooths' may be unlikely to fail, and yes they might be better/stronger then the original Sawtooths which I personally doubt.


There are a few issues here. One lack of technical detail offered by the wheel sellers.

IF the thin 'Sawtooths' are stronger why are they not saying something to the effect of 10% lighter but 10% higher load rating?

I would guess that the thin 'Sawtooths' are lighter as a cost saving measure rather then anything else.

Also they are doing what is known as 'PASSING OFF' or producing a cheaper version/copy and trading on the brand name of the genuine Sawtooths.


What testing/approval are on the thin 'Sawtooths'? You only need one non genuine thin 'Sawtooth' to fail catastrophicly a few people killed and the trade name/reputation of the genuine Sawtooths goes down the pan.



Brendan
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familymad



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HD steels (aka Wolfs) are the way forward then......Proper ones that is Whistle 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
Post #445821 13th Aug 2015 3:42pm
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need4speed



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Not for me. I don't like them..
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familymad



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You will do. It's comes to us all one day like Velcro shoes 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
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Post #445851 13th Aug 2015 5:50pm
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I'm still waiting for it to come to me too. Laughing Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #445857 13th Aug 2015 6:03pm
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need4speed



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familymad wrote:
You will do. It's comes to us all one day like Velcro shoes


Never liked Velcro shoes either.. Rolling with laughter
Post #445899 13th Aug 2015 8:24pm
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steve E



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I've just bought my first sketcher slip ons and my new Defender will have HD Steels.
Oh f. K. What does this mean ?
Post #445906 13th Aug 2015 8:40pm
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fumiyasu



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need4speed wrote:
familymad wrote:
You will do. It's comes to us all one day like Velcro shoes


Never liked Velcro shoes either.. Rolling with laughter


Me neither lol... Please shoot me if I am seen wearing a pair... Confused

I do like wolf wheels thou... Hope that isn't some sort of indication.... Big Cry
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need4speed



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I'd love to tell you it's not an indication. But I can't...... I won't lie. It's all over.. Laughing
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fumiyasu



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Britpart has confirmed with me that their sawtooths are rated at 1000kg and have the JWL standard (Japan light wheel alloy) both these are cast into the wheel on the inside of the wheel as well.

Note that the JWL mark is self-certified by the manufacturer and does not necessarily mean it has been tested independently. The Japanese official do test some wheels with JWL marks but they don't test all of them.
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I wonder if I've missed something but has anyone got evidence that the "dangerous" wheels have actually failed on a vehicle? Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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fumiyasu



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Yea, and I don't think we know where we can buy these dangerous wheels as well because the ones mentioned (Bearmach and Britpart) both seem to be the "thick" type.

I think it is quite possible that there might be some small sellers sourcing directly from a Chinese or similar factory with sub-standard products and I have seen cheap wheels from TaoBao (Chinese ebay) fail. But I personally think pattern wheels from Bearmach and Britpart should be ok, for a supplier that size, there is a real legal risk if they supply dangerous wheels and for the sake of the revenue from one wheel style, I just wouldn't sell it if I were they...
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jimbob7



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doh! Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.

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jimbob7



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ZeDefender wrote:
I wonder if I've missed something but has anyone got evidence that the "dangerous" wheels have actually failed on a vehicle?


should also add, not caused by driver abuse.TBH,no supplier provides details of where their get their parts from which boils my pi55, you just don't know what you are buying,not talking about wheels either,oil filters, cv joints,halfshafts,etc.(in the interest of honesty LRS Wink ),I'm always cautious where I buy parts from coz there is so much crap out there.
At the same time I've saved a good few quid buying a Wabco ABS pump VIA BRITPART,saving me a £1000,Britpart sell GENUINE Blindo alloys,so there Ner Ner .
Also genuine Boost alloys are only rated at 850kg's,if aftermarket alloys are rated at a 1000kg does that make genuine Boost alloys dangerous?Finally, Jaguar x-type owners have had issue's with original fit Aruba alloys cracking.....so much for oem then. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
Post #446086 14th Aug 2015 1:23pm
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