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| Defender-Stu Member Since: 14 Jun 2012 Location: South West England Posts: 1320  
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Hi, well no reply from LR UK team via email or phone so if someone else wants to try them?
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22nd Jan 2015 6:33am |
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| Terryt Member Since: 28 Jun 2012 Location: Lerryn. Cornwall. Posts: 750
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Well it's sad if they don't want to play ..we could contact local media along route .land rovers live etc.
4x4 companies ( free advertising for them) people could join in on route.. Terry |
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22nd Jan 2015 8:45am |
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| schuee Member Since: 16 Jul 2012 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 378 
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We would be up for Red Wharf Bay to Lode Lane
 We are staying in a cottage near there in May, though wouldn't mind making two trips  |
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22nd Jan 2015 2:55pm |
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| zone30 Member Since: 07 Sep 2012 Location: Gent Posts: 669  
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Please do |
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22nd Jan 2015 3:07pm |
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| wyvern Member Since: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2117 
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I'm up for it depending on dates - 16.6 is not ok for me - but the weekend after is a better bet...
Love the convoy idea but would prefer the ''all roads lead to Lode Lane" approach with a set of co-ordinated runs from the various parts of the country - as its a long way to get to the bay from Cornwall ... Maybe see if any of the football stadiums have an event on that day and use their car parks - or the NEC as mentioned? Definitely look at a camping area so that we can all get together afterwards/and before ... maybe an RAF base and use the run to raise cash for H4H - as the majority of defenders went to the forces .. ? lots of possibilities Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126  |
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22nd Jan 2015 7:41pm |
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| Cuthbert Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: Up North Posts: 1535 |
I rather like the concept of a huge convoy of Defenders making their way across North Wales ......... as the Revenue Officer in his North Wales (S)camera Van realises that no-one is speeding and his income target for the day goes down the pan.
Meanwhile the friendly locals will welcome the injection of hard cash into their tills at hotels, local filling stations and food shops. Could be "a grand day out"! |
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22nd Jan 2015 8:13pm |
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| Defender-Stu Member Since: 14 Jun 2012 Location: South West England Posts: 1320
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I cant do June as well so hope its not then as really want to be apart of this
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23rd Jan 2015 6:42am |
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| Wild Card 90 Member Since: 03 Dec 2014 Location: Gerlingen Posts: 1060  
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If they have any idea of what is coming at them they will have to sort out how to deal with all the cards, flowers, candles, models of Landy´s and so on, not to mention the traffic problems that will be created outside Lode Lane.
A Kiosk on the sand at Red Wharf Bay is probably a good business venture. A little resin cast model of HUE 166 sinking into the sand, with inscription " I was on Red Wharf Bay 2015" will probably sell well for 20 quid, too. I up for the trip over. Tell me where and when. Stephen 1998 Tdi 90 SW, 2008 Td4 90 SW, 2012 2.2 90 SW, 2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma Heavy Track Raids, 255 MT´s, Recaro CS´s, anorak, wellingtons |
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23rd Jan 2015 7:12am |
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| Defender-Stu Member Since: 14 Jun 2012 Location: South West England Posts: 1320
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COPY OF MY EMAIL SENT TO LAND ROVER UK:
To Whom This may Concern, Hello my name is Stuart McIvor, I would like to firstly thank you for reading this email, I am writing this on behalf of all Land Rover Defender owners world wide but mainly the owners on the this website, www.defender2.net. We are all looking to organise as large convoy of Defenders, S1, S11, S111, 90, and land rovers from the past 68 year to say goodbye to the current models as we know they are to be no longer in production from later this year. We wanted to know if you would be willing to allow us your help in this matter by helping us organising this and to maybe allow us to use some of say the factory grounds to park in and have a large photo shoot of the day with maybe a couple of the last models on display and to allow our land rovers a chance to again see were they started life. We know this is a lot to ask from a company but we thought this would be great publicity for JLR to close off the old era and bring in the new so to speak. If this is not what you would like to get involved in then please let us know but if it is then I/we would look forward to hearing from you. Thank You Mr Stuart McIvor REPLY FROM LAND ROVER UK: Dear Mr McIvor, Thank you for your email to Land Rover dated 14th January 2015. I would like to apologise for the delay in responding and assure you no discourtesy was intended. The production of the current Land Rover Defender is due to cease this year and at this time no plans have been announced regarding any events to mark the end of production. We are due to create an exhibit to celebrate the history of the Defender that will be featured on the Solihull Factory Tour. The general public have not had the opportunity to walk through this area previously and it was decided that in order to enhance the experience an exhibition which celebrates the history of this iconic vehicle should be added. This is scheduled to be opened in the near future. I have taken the opportunity to include some information about the history of the Land Rover Defender as an attachment. For further enquires regarding a visit to the Solihull Plant or events regarding the final production run, you may wish to contact the centre directly to discuss this. Contact Details Land Rover Experience - Solihull Land Rover, Lode Lane Solihull West Midlands B92 8NW Tel: 0121 700 4619 Email: solihull@landroverexperience.com Should you require any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me. Yours sincerely, Peter Jones INFO GIVEN: The Land Rover Defender Defender Key Dates 1947 Land Rover project approved 1948 The Land Rover is launched at the Amsterdam Motor Show on 30th April 1948 First Station Wagon introduced. 1949 British Army orders its first Land Rovers 1950 Permanent 4WD system replaced by selectable two or four-wheel-drive 1953 Long-wheelbase version introduced 1957 Diesel engine introduced 1958 Series II Land Rover unveiled with more refined styling 1959 250,000th vehicle produced 1961 Series IIA with 2.25 diesel 1966 500,000th vehicle produced 1968 Headlights move position to the front wings 1970 Best year of sales with 56,663 vehicles retailed 1971 Land Rover Series III launched; 750,000th Land Rover produced 1976 1,000,000th Land Rover built 1979 V8 engine option introduced in March 1983 Land Rover goes coil sprung with introduction of One Ten and One Thirty 1984 Land Rover Ninety introduced 1990 Land Rovers are re-launched and renamed Defender 90, 110 and 130 with new 2.5-litre turbo- charged direct injection diesel engine 1992 Land Rover North America is founded with a limited edition of 500 Defender 110 vehicles powered by the 3.9 litre V8 engine 1993 Land Rover North America follows up the success of the launch of the Defender 110 with the Defender 90 soft top 2007 Major Defender evolution includes addition of six-speed gearbox2008 Jaguar and Land Rover bought by Tata Motors 2011 DC100 concept cars shown at Frankfurt 2012 New 2.2-litre diesel engine replaces previous 2.4-litre unit 2013 LXV Special Edition celebrates 65 years of Land Rover A BRIEF HISTORY The first Land Rover design sketch was made in the sand on the beach at Red Wharf Bay in Anglesey by Maurice Wilks, the engineering director of the British motor manufacturer, Rover. Maurice Wilks owned land on the island and wanted a versatile vehicle that could double as a light tractor and off-roader. He devised the Land Rover to replace an American Willys Jeep he used. Maurice showed the proposal to his brother Spencer, Rover’s managing director and the project was approved in 1947. A prototype was soon built using a Willys Jeep. To counter the shortage of steel in post-war Britain, the Wilks brothers opted to clad the Land Rover in aluminium alloy, which was in plentiful supply and had the added benefit of being lightweight and resistant to corrosion. Production proper began at Solihull in the summer of 1948. The original model was powered by a 1595cc engine that drove a permanent four-wheel drive transmission with low ratio gearing to increase off-road capability – a hallmark of every Land Rover to come. The famous Land Rover oval logo has undergone many changes in its history. The original inspiration is said to have come from a pilchard tin. Part of a designer’s lunch, it left a mark on his drawing board which he copied for the vehicle’s badge. When first introduced, the Land Rover was available only as an open utility vehicle with a wheelbase of 80 inches and a launch price of £450. To target the vital agricultural market, power take-offs could be fitted to enable the car to drive farming equipment. Specialist vehicles in the shape of a fire engine and mobile welder were soon developed. What had once been considered as a stop gap until Rover could introduce a new post-war car, ended up being produced in greater numbers than the Rover themselves – an event anticipated by the board as early as November 1948. An early attempt at building a more comfortable Land Rover came in 1948 when the first seven-seater station wagon, with a coachbuilt body by Tickford, was introduced. In the UK, it attracted Purchase Tax, from which the utility version was exempt. This made it very expensive, restricting its success in the UK, although many were sold overseas. The basic vehicle was also exported to the USA, generating crucial dollar revenue needed to repay Britain’s war debt. The first year’s retail sales in 1948 reached 8,000 and an event was held at Lode Lane to celebrate this success. Sales doubled in the second year to 16,085. In Land Rover’s 10th anniversary year the Series II was launched and sales for that year (1958) reached 28,371. In 1949, the British Army ordered its first Land Rovers, quickly realising that the car could fulfil all of the roles of the complex and more expensive Austin Champ. The British Armed Forces eventually adopted Land Rovers in many different forms as their standard four-wheel drive vehicle. In 1950, the permanent four-wheel drive system was replaced by a more conventional selectable arrangement. Four-wheel drive was engaged in low range and could also be selected in high range when required. Two years later the relatively underpowered 1.6-litre engine was replaced by a 2.0-litre unit. More than 200,000 Series I Land Rovers had been made when the 10th anniversary was marked in 1958 by the launch of the Series II model; recognisable by its restyled body with side sills and rounded shoulders in the side panels. The petrol engine was enlarged to 2¼ litres and a redesign of the diesel followed in 1961. With the introduction of the new diesel, Land Rovers were redesignated as Series IIA. In 1971 the upgraded Series III Land Rover was unveiled, featuring a new moulded grille, upgraded fascia and a full synchromesh gearbox was also fitted. In 1976 another milestone for the model line was reached when the millionth Land Rover (a Series III model) was built. In 1984 Land Rovers received certain creature comforts – like wind-up windows – for the first time with the introduction of the Land Rover 90. The Land Rover was renamed ‘Defender’ in 1990, a year after the new Discovery model went on sale. A major revamp in 2007 introduced such luxuries as a six-speed gearbox and even an MP3 music player connector. Around 25,000 are sold each year across the world and existing models show no signs of giving up. Series I Land Rovers sent to Costa Rica to work on coffee plantations in the 1950s are still being used to this day. Land Rover has supplied vehicles to the Red Cross since 1954. Unveiled at the 2011 Frankfurt Motor Show, the Land Rover DC100 and DC100 Sport were two concept models that showcased a host of new technologies from Land Rover, including Terrain i-scanning, ‘always on’ communication telematics and Wade Aid – the latter is now available on the new Range Rover and Range Rover Sport. A number of updates in 2012 included the 2.2-litre diesel engine, delivering the same power and economy as its 2.4-litre forebear and making it the cleanest Defender yet. The optional Off-Road pack featured ABS, heavy duty rims and MTR tyres, a tow ball and under-ride protection bar. Land Rover continued to champion innovation when it unveiled an Electric Defender research vehicle in 2013. The research vehicle delivers zero emissions while retaining its tough, go-anywhere capability - even wading to 800mm. The diesel engine and gearbox have been replaced by a 70kW (94bhp), 330Nm electric motor twinned with a 300-volt, 27kWh lithium-ion battery, giving a range of more than 50 miles. In low-speed, off-road use it can last for up to eight hours before recharging. |
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23rd Jan 2015 10:52am |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 
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Thanks Defender-Stu
Interesting, but no 'take up' of the idea. Suggest we see what others think, 'consolidate' the idea, and try again. SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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23rd Jan 2015 11:01am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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"Party-Line, Non Committal" response which is a shame. Maybe Peter Jones should consider a change of vocation to a Politician perhaps, they never answer direct approaches either?
"Should you require any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me."..... What tosh!!!!!! How's about an answer to the original polite, clear and concise queries instead of the standard PR media bull***t? You are missing an ideal golden 'Media Opportunity' that would cost you nothing, or have I misread your job title description under your name? Pathetic!!!!!!   If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! Last edited by K9F on 23rd Jan 2015 11:16am. Edited 1 time in total |
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23rd Jan 2015 11:07am |
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| CRC@LandRover Verified Account  Member Since: 25 Mar 2013 Location: Coventry Posts: 383
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Hi All,
At this stage no official plans have been announced for the final production run off of the Defender at Solihull. We have recently announced the 3 special edition derivatives and will continue to communicate any further information throughout our Land Rover Retailer Network. Additionally there will be information provided on the Jaguar Land Rover Newsroom site located here As part of the final year of the current Land Rover Defender, we have a Defender Exhibition being added to the Solihull factory tour to celebrate the iconic vehicle and its history. Should you wish to enquire about any details of the tour or have questions relating to visits of the Solihull Land Rover factory, please find the contact details below: Land Rover Experience - Solihull Land Rover, Lode Lane Solihull West Midlands B92 8NW 0121 700 4619 solihull@landroverexperience.com Many thanks, Ryan |
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23rd Jan 2015 11:14am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Ryan,
 Tell me you didn't just more or less cut and paste that from the 'Peter Jones Response' above please?
Sure it's not Bryan........  
Click image to enlarge Bypass Land Rover, make it a success and when the media do get involved as they will make it known Land Rover's stance on this and how they were given every opportunity to get involved. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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23rd Jan 2015 11:18am |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295
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Hello Ryan@LandRover
Thanks for joining in, but with respect, you add no 'new news' to the response from JLR. I fully expect this to be a 'slow burn' idea for them, if they engage with us at all. Defender 'enthusiasts' come in all forms, and there might be some 'reservation' in 'opening their doors' (from JLR perspective) to the good, the bad and the ugly... Also currently, we have no real idea on the enthusiasm for this... what if the take up is viewed to be too low. My overall suggestion at this point is to... 1 Gauge opinion, 2 Plan the 'pitch' back to JLR 3 Try again I have some PR experience, and know a few people who could possibly help with this, one thing I think I know is the approach will be key. Still happy to do this without any JLR involvement, and drive past Land Rover as a show of 'independence'. SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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23rd Jan 2015 11:38am |
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