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gilarion



Member Since: 05 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
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Wales 2007 Defender 90 Other CSW Trident Green
If JLR adopt this modernist design it will be a shame. The Defender design has proved itself over decades and looks distinctive, it stands out from the crowd as being different. This concept looks like any other smooth lined metro sexualised Chelsea tractor and premier league footballers dream toy.

The other downfall this design has in my opinion is that any type of exterior mod will just make the thing look more unsightly than it already does. It will also probably come out in a range of bright garish colours to appeal to the mass market. God help us!
Post #368262 30th Oct 2014 12:29pm
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Cupboard



Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
Van? Pickup? Farmer-mobile?
Post #368267 30th Oct 2014 12:52pm
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Naks



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
and powered by an engine made in 42s? http://www.bbc.com/news/business-29829178 --
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Post #368292 30th Oct 2014 3:06pm
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Supacat



Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
"Piston stuffing machine" - wouldn't have believed it if I'd not heard it with my own ears! Laughing
Post #368294 30th Oct 2014 3:11pm
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Marky Boy



Member Since: 25 Oct 2013
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Wow they've got a piston stuffing machine - coooool

I think....
Post #368295 30th Oct 2014 3:11pm
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gilarion



Member Since: 05 Dec 2013
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Wales 2007 Defender 90 Other CSW Trident Green
42 seconds to build an engine great! What happens this winter when we have power cuts? One engine a day!
Post #368301 30th Oct 2014 4:10pm
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SS90



Member Since: 16 Nov 2013
Location: Uk
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If they can churn them out that quick does that mean they'll be cheap to buy Laughing
Post #368306 30th Oct 2014 4:56pm
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muddybaldboy



Member Since: 09 Apr 2012
Location: Ruthin
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Wales 1999 Defender 110 Td5 HT Chawton White
Cupboard wrote:
Van? Pickup? Farmer-mobile?


Nissan, Toyota or Ford Whistle He who dies with the most toys...wins!
Post #368320 30th Oct 2014 6:13pm
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AndrewS



Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
I have not read the article in the press release BTW as I don't listen to that Censored .

My thoughts For what it worth If you drive a 200 or 300 please don't read on as you are going to be very upset Thumbs Up

It will have various engine options from big power to electric/diesel eco.

It will have a solid/fixed mounted electric powered rear diff with independent suspension.

Three body sizes/lengths each with different trim levels ie farmer, standard then posh giving 9 base options that can then be specked up or down.

When off road it will make all the other LR products look like a duck on smack trying to cross an ice covered lake.

We (The Public) will be able to mod the body to suit various work requirements.

It wont leak

It WILL be quiet

It will be reliable

It will be a very nice vehicle Thumbs Up
Post #368345 30th Oct 2014 7:42pm
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acuss01



Member Since: 27 Jun 2014
Location: London
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red
...But it won't be a Classic.

Even if it is better in every possible way, it still won't have the romantic appeal of the original.

And for that reason it won't be as valuable on resale. 2015 110 XS CSW Montalcino Red with Black Pack
Post #368346 30th Oct 2014 7:51pm
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Cheshire110



Member Since: 26 Jul 2013
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AndrewS wrote:
I have not read the article in the press release BTW as I don't listen to that Censored .

My thoughts For what it worth If you drive a 200 or 300 please don't read on as you are going to be very upset Thumbs Up

It will have various engine options from big power to electric/diesel eco.

It will have a solid/fixed mounted electric powered rear diff with independent suspension.

Three body sizes/lengths each with different trim levels ie farmer, standard then posh giving 9 base options that can then be specked up or down.

When off road it will make all the other LR products look like a duck on smack trying to cross an ice covered lake.

We (The Public) will be able to mod the body to suit various work requirements.

It wont leak

It WILL be quiet

It will be reliable

It will be a very nice vehicle Thumbs Up


Hope so! I'm excited.

And besides, there'll always be the option to simply build your own pre-2015 defender anyway from parts Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
Post #368350 30th Oct 2014 8:08pm
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AndrewS



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
acuss01 wrote:
...But it won't be a Classic.

Even if it is better in every possible way, it still won't have the romantic appeal of the original.

And for that reason it won't be as valuable on resale.


How can it be a classic it's brand-new.

It will have more appeal.

I bet it will.
Post #368355 30th Oct 2014 8:16pm
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RobKeay



Member Since: 19 Jul 2009
Location: Stafford
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
I am with andrew and am already working hard saving up. Not really bothered about looks, I'll be too busy driving it. I liked some of the ideas in dc100 write up. The simple ipad style dash and the none rip seats. An automatic gear box.

The clever electric diff sounds great for off-roading and dragging the 3.5tonne trailer about.
Post #368356 30th Oct 2014 8:18pm
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Sphere



Member Since: 26 Apr 2013
Location: Midlands
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Keswick Green
I thought I was the only one saving. I just hope it has character and the same appear to both those who work the land and own it. Love driving my td5 hope I will like the new one as much.

It won't be the same it can't but it doesn't stop it being good
Post #368361 30th Oct 2014 8:29pm
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pannawonica



Member Since: 21 Nov 2010
Location: Clackline Western Australia
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I wish the new Defender was an Ovik Crossway built under licence by JLR. I recon that it would be ideal for most on this forum! Very Happy
Post #369168 3rd Nov 2014 8:26am
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