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What brake pads are you currently using? LR Genuine  50%  [21] EBC Ultimax  4%  [2] EBC Greenstuff  21%  [9] TRW / OE Quality manufacturer  23%  [10] Total Votes: 42

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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20472

lambert.the.farmer wrote: Only time i heard about needing rotors and pads was when someone was trying to sell me a set. I was thinking that too. Wonder why that might be. Doubt the slotted would be so bad but I don't think drilled rotors would be any good on a muddy Defender. Would just get plugged up with mud and grit. No Guts, No Glory. 🇬🇧ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �¥ó �®ó �§ó �¿ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �·ó �¬ó �³ó �¿ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �³ó �£ó �´ó �¿ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸â›½ï¸�🛢ï¸�âš™ï¸�🧰💪

7th Mar 2013 9:39am

LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324

I can only think that you two have dealt with some unscrupulous mechanics. In my case, I was recommended not to fit the EBC pads as my existing disks were fine and all I needed was some OE pads. There was no question of trying to sell me more stuff than I needed. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia

7th Mar 2013 9:46am

custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20472	As above personally myself I have only been offered OE by LR dealers and EBC upon enquiring. Never had disks mentioned at all. No Guts, No Glory. 🇬🇧ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �¥ó �®ó �§ó �¿ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �·ó �¬ó �³ó �¿ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �³ó �£ó �´ó �¿ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸â›½ï¸�🛢ï¸�âš™ï¸�🧰💪
7th Mar 2013 10:00am

LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324	To be fair, unless they're particularly enthusiastic, LR dealers are not likely to be best placed to recommend non-LR parts. A decent independant will have more rounded experience. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia
7th Mar 2013 10:46am

custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20472	*EDIT* Interested to know what pad manufacturers people are using so to avoid putting up another thread to add to the countless rest. I have added a poll to this one. No Guts, No Glory. 🇬🇧ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �¥ó �®ó �§ó �¿ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �·ó �¬ó �³ó �¿ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �³ó �£ó �´ó �¿ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸â›½ï¸�🛢ï¸�âš™ï¸�🧰💪
7th Mar 2013 5:30pm

tatra805 Member Since: 16 Aug 2011 Location: Dolany Posts: 436

just a small comment on discs and pads replacement at once and our legendary brake calipers I would never (again) replace pads and rotors at the same moment. If there is any corrosion on the caliper pistons you'll might end up having a very hard time pushing them back completely allowing new pads to slide in with new rotors fitted. This is the only time the calipers need to be opened that far and although the rotor wear is all minimal etc this 1mm difference can make it impossible to fit the new pads. i'm wearing down my new rotors with the remains of the OEM pads at the moment till i can fit in the EBC pads. Optimal i should overhaul the calipers but it is only the very outer extends of the pistons that have corrosion preventing them to go back 100%. (forcing them in will no doubt ruin the seals, so even a bigger mess and cost) 2 cents only.

7th Mar 2013 7:01pm

custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20472

Seems some very good words there. I'm only interested in a pad change myself so hopefully won't be an issue. Also in the workshop manual it recommends cleaning the corroded pistons where possible. How difficult / easy that is / will be I do not know it depend on the state of them on different vehicles. To be honest issues arising with ware on disks and pads that are grooved . drilled put me right of. IMO the OE system is good as is and you'll never get a 2T Defender to brake like a sports car anyway. No Guts, No Glory. 🇬🇧ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �¥ó �®ó �§ó �¿ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �·ó �¬ó �³ó �¿ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �³ó �£ó �´ó �¿ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸â›½ï¸�🛢ï¸�âš™ï¸�🧰💪

7th Mar 2013 7:19pm

mick Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 2109	I have used ferrodo £36 a pair hardest bit is lifting the wheels back on
7th Mar 2013 7:32pm

LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3645

I have used ebc standard black and ebc green stuff on the BM and both are great, and both lasted longer than the OEM ones,the green stuff ones feel sharper (after they have bedded in ) and brake with no fade from high speed time and time again, I have also noticed a reduction in dust (after they have initially bedded in) DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy

7th Mar 2013 7:40pm

ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731	Glyn - another "how to" saved  Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
7th Mar 2013 7:40pm

Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Región Metropolitana Posts: 2110	Thanks Glyn for the step by step instruction Using now genuine but I have a pair of TRW as a replacement. Cheers Eduardo MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64' MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo" Click image to enlarge
7th Mar 2013 7:58pm

tatra805 Member Since: 16 Aug 2011 Location: Dolany Posts: 436

Steve I agree with you on the sportscar but see a general misunderstanding coming up Grooved/crossdrilled discs are not designed for more braking power, but for more cooling of the brakepads. MORE braking you will achieve by other pad composition or bigger calipers/pads. LONGER braking without fading you will get with better cooling. The thing with the better pads is that this means more friction = more heat = faster fading = more need for cooling or upgrading DOT type of brake fluid. My pads were glass last summer after our Alp trip and fading was an issue after a couple of hours. (heavy loaded and having driving fun) This means the calipers are able to put enough pressure on the pads but the discs are not able to dissipate the heat, so i would say that if your brake force is adequate you'll get an improvement out of drilled/grooved discs with stock pads. If you need more braking power, as i wanted , then you need to add better pads, so eg greenstuff. As these create more friction = heat they naturally benefit from having drilled discs. I remember my young days where i would put performance pads on all my cars and have warped stock discs within 5K km, even on non performance small cars. If you want to step it up even more you'll need bigger calipers as the OEMs will become the limiting factor. eg speed limiter off and a stage 34 tune will burn out your brakes after a couple of 160 to 0 km/h stops, even if braking power was ok. (this is also the case without tune, but then you are limited to 137km/h and it takes you so long to get there that the brakes have enough time to cool down) I completely agree the OEM setup is far from bad, but it can be improved and of course it all relates to how you drive and at what speeds. I went to grooved discs with OEM pads; an improvement, the Greenstuff things are even better (have them in the back, front i'm waiting as mentioned before) I do not notice the internet mentioned issues with them till now. Oh, and my conclusions are not based on sport driving the 110, i'm most of the time pulling my horsebox in our mountain region, it is not tuned, so it is endurance brake performance, not binary racing on what i base my opinion. 2 cents only

7th Mar 2013 7:59pm

custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20472	ZeDefender wrote: Glyn - another "how to" saved He did indeed do well.  No Guts, No Glory. 🇬🇧ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �¥ó �®ó �§ó �¿ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �·ó �¬ó �³ó �¿ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �³ó �£ó �´ó �¿ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸â›½ï¸�🛢ï¸�âš™ï¸�🧰💪
7th Mar 2013 8:01pm

custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20472	As of today EBC greenstuff fitted on mine now. Newly fitted so going easy on them but seem great so far.  No Guts, No Glory. 🇬🇧ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �¥ó �®ó �§ó �¿ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �·ó �¬ó �³ó �¿ðŸ�´ó �§ó �¢ó �³ó �£ó �´ó �¿ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸â›½ï¸�🛢ï¸�âš™ï¸�🧰💪
5th Jun 2013 2:40pm

bm52 Member Since: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Kent Posts: 2189	Did you keep the standard discs or fit new ones? I'd be interested to hear your views on them once bedded in. BM52
5th Jun 2013 6:11pm

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