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mse



Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey
I did mine inside and out after 1 day of having it...im glad i did it myself; you can get the job to a similar level as the pro's in my opinion and you know where and where not has been done + take the time to do it.

Noting mine had a max of 3 days use before i had to do the job, i then spent 2/3 days then odd hours over 6 months adding to it.

I did the bulkhead but not the doors as i didnt want to pull the trim off. All cavities were done including (an area many wouldnt routinely do) the chassis from the bumper end (as i took the bumper off for the winch fitting).

Stone chip and the underbody seal also applied.

The corrosion warranty is 3yrs longer than the manufacturing warranty, however, *apparently* the doors (and other areas) are made and painted differently to all previous models (not from a land rover press/warranty source) and thus it will last differently to previous ones...im not sure better - just different Laughing

Ive seen untreated ones lasting 10years so if this adds another 10 we are talking a 20year old car...by then we probably wont be allowed to drive so hey! Mike
Post #16756 15th Oct 2009 8:37pm
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kmac



Member Since: 07 Oct 2009
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Okay had mine done at Foleys. They spray the underside, not with Waxoyl but with something by a company called Wurth - clear waxy stuff.

Could have done it myself but it really helps to:
1) Have a compressor
2) Have a vehicle lift system so you can see clearly what you are doing

Only time will tell, but I'm happy with what they've done for the price.
Post #16870 19th Oct 2009 7:50am
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Willie



Member Since: 08 Oct 2009
Location: Stockton
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Rimini Red
Has anyone used "The Wax Works" in Morpeth? Rustmaster is a bit far away for me.

Willie Defender Virgin
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alantd



Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Just had mine done at Rustmaster today.

They've done a pretty good job (as far as I can tell in the dark). I'll check it out in detail tomorrow. I bought a couple of cans of their hard wax and fine wax for top-up and additions.

They removed all the LR top-wax that was on there (I had quite a bit on my 2007 110) before coating properly.

I wouldn't have been able to do it myself as I don't have the kit to properly clean it, dry it, remove the waxy oils or reach into the bulkhead, doors or chassis.

Very glad I've had it done now we're heading into winter. The sooner you get it done the better but anytime within the first couple of years should be fine. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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Post #17076 22nd Oct 2009 10:30pm
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eutek



Member Since: 03 Mar 2009
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Just to add another question to an older thread... am I to understand that Land Rover don't apply any sort of rust protection to the Defenders post 2007?

I just picked up an 09 110, and I'm curious. I had a peek underneath, and it seems like just bare metal.
Post #19256 1st Dec 2009 10:19am
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alantd



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
eutek wrote:
Just to add another question to an older thread... am I to understand that Land Rover don't apply any sort of rust protection to the Defenders post 2007?

I just picked up an 09 110, and I'm curious. I had a peek underneath, and it seems like just bare metal.


They've stopped applying anything. The stuff they put on was only really for storage - it wasn't ever applied with enough rigour to warrant being called rust proofing. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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Post #19265 1st Dec 2009 1:56pm
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eutek



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Wow... I guess I'd better start saving to get mine done! There is only a bit of surface rust underneath mine, here and there. I'd not like it to go beyond that.

I'm amazed at the amount of salt that is used here, when it hardly even snows. I'm a recent import to the UK, and where I grew up the salt only came out when snowed. Even then, they tended to use sand more than salt.

At least the other car has been rustproofed already...
Post #19285 1st Dec 2009 9:02pm
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Mad Cow



Member Since: 27 Oct 2009
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England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Zermatt Silver
Rustmaster are offering £100 off until the end of December.

A 90 is normally £460 + VAT

And don't forget VAT goes back up to 17.5% on 1st January Sad MAD COW

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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Any Moderators out there? Just an opinion would it not be prudent to amalgamate this thread with the 20% off at Rustmasters one? Two threads exactly same theme!

Question If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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Post #19298 2nd Dec 2009 6:59am
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Cibit



Member Since: 26 Oct 2009
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Just booked mine into Waxworks for next friday. Will post some pics and feedback once its done Wink

The guy is very friendly and approachable and is giving me discount for the 2 110's

Price before discount 360£ inc VAT seems reasonable and he uses 25-30 litres of Waxoil Cool 59 2.4 110 XS Utility
55 TD5 110 CSW Special Vehicle
Post #19380 3rd Dec 2009 12:06pm
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dgardel



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Cibit wrote:
Just booked mine into Waxworks for next friday. Will post some pics and feedback once its done Wink

The guy is very friendly and approachable and is giving me discount for the 2 110's

Price before discount 360£ inc VAT seems reasonable and he uses 25-30 litres of Waxoil Cool


25 - 30 liters seems a lot.......

I do myself the work, with my Defender VERY FULL OF WAXOYL and I used 15 liters.....

But it's really full everewhere.... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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Cibit



Member Since: 26 Oct 2009
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
dgardel wrote:

25 - 30 liters seems a lot.......

I do myself the work, with my Defender VERY FULL OF WAXOYL and I used 15 liters.....

But it's really full everewhere....


The very first question I asked was how much waxoil is used. Maybe he tries to impress me?
I am hoping to hang around while its done and see what goes on and how many empty cans at the end Whistle 59 2.4 110 XS Utility
55 TD5 110 CSW Special Vehicle
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PDH



Member Since: 03 Dec 2009
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
hey Cibit, be interested hear your feedback on Waxworks.
Want to keep my new baby looking her best Very Happy
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niglyn



Member Since: 12 Jun 2009
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Had two done at Rustmaster. You just cannot buy the cavity wax that they use anywhere else. It mists & gets everywhere, which is exactly what is needed. I made sure the bulkhead was done well, they can get right up the door pillars to the windscreen, where LRs will rot out. Front out riggers and inside the rear crossmember are other grot spots.

The doors & bonnet are now steel. Knowing LR i'm sure they will rot out. Even the ally ones would bubble through in about 10 years. I took all of the door trim off, so the cavity wax could be 'splashed all over' and right to the top of the doors. Rustmaster can still get in there without removing the trim if you prefer. I also lined the bottoms of the doors with ordinary wax oil, which I pre-heated in a pan of water, otherwise water will sit in the join between the door skin and door frame. The door window rubbers seem to be particully badly fitted, with a big gap underneath. It is caused by the door being poorly manufactured. I removed the rubber (easy with the door trim removed) and gunged it with a mastic sealant, re-fitted the seal and removed the excess sealant, so now hardly any water will get into the door. There is a big gap between the glass and door trim on the inside of the vehicle, so the door cavity will still have plenty of ventillation for moisture to escape.

It is the bits we cannot see where the rot starts, the outside of the chassis is not as critical as we can easily see it and blob on underseal where necessary. For peace of mind and hopefully a higher re-sale value I think a visit to rustmaster cannot be beaten.

Don't forget to take some overalls and wellies as they are quite happy for you to stay and watch the process.
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Cibit



Member Since: 26 Oct 2009
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Just back from Waxworks and I am pleased with the result. Waxoil seems to be oozing from the cavaties I can see and all the visible bits look well covered.
only managed a couple of quick pics but you can get an idea from them Arrow

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55 TD5 110 CSW Special Vehicle
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