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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 110 Td5 HT Bonatti Grey
300tdi - turn key and eventually starting
This mourning when I went to the Land Rover I started it as usual but when the glow plugs finished I turned the key to position 3 and nothing again, like a problem I had a few months ago. I decided to hold the key and after about fifteen seconds it cranked and started like normal. Any ideas as to why this is? Stuck solenoid on the starter? Started perfectly fine up until this point and started again fine this afternoon from cold. 1999 Land Rover Defender 110 td5 station wagon
1998 Land Rover Defender 110 County Station Wagon ~ Sold
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Post #692614 11th Mar 2018 4:01pm
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Does yours have the factory fitted alarm with the two button key fob? If so, it could be failure of what is known as the 'spider unit'. This is part of the immobiliser system. They're well known for developing dry joints on the circuit board to the extent that Land Rover eventually produced a little by-pass loom that plugs in in place of the unit itself.

I had exactly the same on a 300tdi Discovery some years ago where it would, intermittently, crank but not start. Darren

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Thanks for the suggestion, it does indeed have that type of alarm and I still haven't removed it for some reason. Will look into that Thumbs Up 1999 Land Rover Defender 110 td5 station wagon
1998 Land Rover Defender 110 County Station Wagon ~ Sold
1995 Land Rover Defender 110 V8 Station Wagon ~ Sold Sad
1985 Land Rover 110 ex mod project Tithonus ~ Sold Sad
Post #692741 12th Mar 2018 2:20am
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Italy 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Coniston Green
I had similar problems on my 1998 300Tdi.
I removed every alarm related part and put a "bypass" (you can find it on Ebay) in the black box under left seat.
No more problems!!!
You can try first with bypass. Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum
Post #698112 2nd Apr 2018 8:28pm
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Thanks, will check it out, hasn't been to much of a problem lately but a permanent fix is always better than a temporary one Thumbs Up 1999 Land Rover Defender 110 td5 station wagon
1998 Land Rover Defender 110 County Station Wagon ~ Sold
1995 Land Rover Defender 110 V8 Station Wagon ~ Sold Sad
1985 Land Rover 110 ex mod project Tithonus ~ Sold Sad
Post #698130 2nd Apr 2018 10:15pm
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Are you on about the bypass part AMR 5956 by the way? 1999 Land Rover Defender 110 td5 station wagon
1998 Land Rover Defender 110 County Station Wagon ~ Sold
1995 Land Rover Defender 110 V8 Station Wagon ~ Sold Sad
1985 Land Rover 110 ex mod project Tithonus ~ Sold Sad
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The most common issue with the “spider” was dry joints on the solder,
I had similar issues with my 300 tdi disco. 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

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Italy 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Coniston Green
I mean this one:
https://www.ebay.it/itm/TRIUMPH-DAYTONA-67...SwQaJXR2qK
and it seems its code is AMR5956 by the way Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum
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Sorry, that's not the right one. Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum
Post #698204 3rd Apr 2018 11:52am
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No worries I found somewhere that sells one marketed as for a Land Rover, will get one and check it out. 1999 Land Rover Defender 110 td5 station wagon
1998 Land Rover Defender 110 County Station Wagon ~ Sold
1995 Land Rover Defender 110 V8 Station Wagon ~ Sold Sad
1985 Land Rover 110 ex mod project Tithonus ~ Sold Sad
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Well its been about a week since I fitted the bypass and everything seems normal again. No delayed starts or complete failure-to-starts. There was a parking space in the local tesco that was notorious as five times I parked in the exact place it wouldn't start at all, but elsewhere in the car park it was fine Laughing . Parked there a few times now and haven't had any issues so hopefully that is problem solved Thumbs Up
Will update the thread again if it comes back 1999 Land Rover Defender 110 td5 station wagon
1998 Land Rover Defender 110 County Station Wagon ~ Sold
1995 Land Rover Defender 110 V8 Station Wagon ~ Sold Sad
1985 Land Rover 110 ex mod project Tithonus ~ Sold Sad
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Nice one charcoal Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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Is it this. We are having similar issues with our 90?

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1995 110 300TDI
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Post #972437 26th Nov 2022 11:00am
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Yep, that’s it. Inside there there’s a multiplug thing, and the bypass plug just slots in. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
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That looks riveted in and not an easy removal! 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
Post #972443 26th Nov 2022 12:49pm
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