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| Ecco Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 280   
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..all i can say is, good luck to anyone who is going for shot..far as im concerned...never..
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6th May 2021 5:48am |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1286 
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Had both of mine.
No reaction whatsoever to either of them. So why not?  |
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6th May 2021 9:06am |
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| Ecco Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 280
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..i do not see one single reason why should i inject chemicals inside my body, considering that (where i am living) regardless taking vax or not, this is narration
-you can get infected -you can transmit disease -you have to wear mask -you have to keep social distance On the top of that, if you get hurt or killed by vax, no responsibility is taken by either manufacturer of vax or medical institutions performing this stunt. So, yeah..why? |
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6th May 2021 9:18am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4218  
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Everyone, in this country anyway, has free choice over whether to have the vaccine, which is how it should be. I chose to have it as I do not know how seriously I would be affected should I contract Covid19 and I’ve no desire to spend time on a ventilator or die prematurely. I know personally 2 people who have died of Covid19, I know some people who were practically unaffected and a range of people in between. Some of them were younger healthy people who have been affected for a long time after the initial infection.
The evidence is showing that the vaccine is both effective at reducing transmission and significantly reduces hospital admissions. So I guess a mixture of civic duty and selfishness made me happy to have it. I also trust science, if not the politicians, that the risk from having the vaccine is small. Effective vaccines have after all been one of the great medical breakthroughs of the last century. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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6th May 2021 10:52am |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3521 
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I’m with you Bluest. Off for my second jab tomorrow.
Felt terrible after having the first one for a couple of days. Small price to pay for some protection. |
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6th May 2021 12:21pm |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3786  
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I'm with you, had my first dose of AZ, plus my flue injection. The risks associated with the vaccine are almost zero, & far less than other "medicines", ie ladies pill etc where reactions are well in front of the virus vaccine. Catching the virus at my age would not be good, I had absolutely NO hesitation in lining up. Pickles. |
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6th May 2021 10:33pm |
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| nicholas2012 Member Since: 28 Jun 2012 Location: lanarkshire Posts: 193  
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Exactly Bluest it's freedom of choice, I'm 30 and had been considering whether to have it or not,most my family have had the AZ vaccine with minimal affects, so I intend accept a vaccine when the time comes
Right now we're in the middle of lambing/calving if I could have one tomorrow would probably postpone for the simple fact its our busiest time of year and wouldn't want to risk having a reaction. (my girlfriend's mum was really poorly for two weeks with no energy after recieving the AZ vaccine) I think it would be unfair to force people to have it we don't live in a dictatorship but feel there's a social responsibility have a vaccine |
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7th May 2021 12:44am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5839  
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Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing, but on a planet with a rapidly growing population that is more and more urbanised, social duty is just as important. This isn't a comment against Ecco, just a wider observation, but the ever growing fad amongst people for 'rights', 'freedom', 'choice', 'respect', 'liberty' but taken to the nth degree in actually meaning 'what I believe I'm owed is the right to do what I want, when I want, how I want and I don't give a gnat's chuff what anyone thinks about it' is eroding social responsibility. This is manifested in how people drive, treat each other, help (or not) each other, where they park, how they party, how they respect the rule of law, how they treat their neighbours, how they talk to each other etc. And during Covid, how they ignored lockdown, partied, demonstrated etc.
I've was raised, and have always believed, that anything I do or say shouldn't have an adverse reaction for someone else, whether they're standing in front of me or completely unknown to me. The third party comes first, Not me. That ethos is lost in so much of modern life and we're seeing it in much of the chat about Covid. People confusing lockdown with trying to save them because they're of a certain age - yet they saying they don't care if they die - with the need to stop the NHS being overwhelmed, grinding to a halt and ultimately affecting people it shouldn't be. The do/don't take the jab is the same idea. It's as much about protecting the wider population and suppressing the virus as it is about protecting you, the injectee. But people think it's all about 'me'. And given the number of jabs, of all flavours, the stats show it is far far safer than so many other things we do daily, (literally, far less chance of dying than being hit by a bus), that the risks are clearly minuscule but the benefits to the wider population not just us as individuals, massive. What's more, so many of the people who are saying 'no' also throw so much crap in themselves daily, but because it's normalised (over the counter drugs), or fun (illegal drugs cut with all manner of crap, produced in the most unsanitary conditions and carried up people's ar**holes), they just turn a blind eye to things that are as dangerous as the Covid jab, or indeed more dangerous, because it suits them. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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7th May 2021 7:27am |
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| nicholas2012 Member Since: 28 Jun 2012 Location: lanarkshire Posts: 193
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Agree with everything you say the freedom of choice goes to far for example to protest/riot during a full lockdown with these black lives matter protests or the Sarah Evarard etc a lot these people are morons without a care for anything other than causing trouble. It angers me watching things like that on the news.
I live at home with my parents who are in there 70s and my granny who turned 100 last year so have been super cautious about going anywhere this past year and haven't left the farm in over a month about the only contacts I've had are with neighbours or vets oh and the fallen stock driver Would say people need to start being taught common sense at school these days |
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7th May 2021 8:08am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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I don’t understand why folks that are happy to have vaccines against tetanus, smallpox, measles, polio, cholera, yellow fever and a hoist of other deadly diseases just to go on holiday or for overseas work object to having an anti-COVID vaccine. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
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7th May 2021 8:18am |
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| nicholas2012 Member Since: 28 Jun 2012 Location: lanarkshire Posts: 193
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Also a good point will likely need to have a covid vaccine to go on holiday before long so the selfish mentality might changed their mind
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7th May 2021 8:25am |
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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 868 
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“… a good point will likely need to have a covid vaccine to go on holiday before long”
A MAJOR consideration for us, to sit out Covid we re-located to the South of France where the weather is that much better - as I’m writing this the missus is on the beach topping up her tan - and it’s less crowded than the big cities. But I doubt we’ll be able to return to the UK, or have our family visit us, without a “Vaccine Passport” or the hassle and expense of multiple testing, which we just about managed in time to leave the UK last December. Our second Pfizer booked in for Monday (at the Clinic in St Tropez, just to make you all envious!). Peter Edited to add: with absolutely NO ill-effects with the first one, not even slight bruising. |
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7th May 2021 8:40am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Just had a phone call from the local health centre - 0915 tomorrow for my 2nd doze of AZ. Had minor side effects (expected) from the 1st dose - my parents are 92 and 93 and had no side effects from 1st dose but my father had a day in bed after the 2nd just not feeling 100% rather than anything specific. Throughout they stayed at home or went for walks around the edge of the village - I think their cars suffered more from lock down than either of them! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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7th May 2021 9:04am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5839
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Peeing with rain here. Friends have just headed to Port Grimaud for a break, but I'm helping a mate re do his roof and we're having to juggle days based on all the rain. Also, second jab for Pfizer booked next Friday (at the hospital in Sallanches with views of Mont Blanc to make those who prefer mountains to sea equally envious  ). By then Mrs Grenadier and I will have both been done and keen to get away. Either to a friend in St Emilion or Turin if their cases are low enough. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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7th May 2021 10:14am |
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