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LESVOSD110



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pom wrote:
LESVOSD110 wrote:
The Greek army use these,and they do fail often even from engine related problems.All vehicles do have there quirks but some better than others.The best for me is,the SA built series III with the ADE diesel.Low reving thumper that Toyo used aswell.


No wonder the country is smoked if they were spunking cash on g wagons.

Pom


They build them here locally under licence for the Army only. Puma 110 SW
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Post #83282 7th Aug 2011 3:59am
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LESVOSD110



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If you know about engineering look under a G Class then look under your Defender and see the difference... Made by Daimler Steyer Puch and not by accountants. I would have one again in a minute but to see the massive over-engineering and rust protection on a G Class would make a welder weep.


Have a look around on the merc forums and you will notice not all is wonderfull with owning one.Mechanical problems galore with high price tag to start with. Puma 110 SW
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Post #83283 7th Aug 2011 4:23am
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eutek



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I see lots of them coming into Bicester Village (cant' avoid the place - live right down the road from it). The new ones do look a bit over engineered and rather "blinged up" for my taste.

I'm sure they're formidable vehicles, but aesthetically I prefer the Defender. Very Happy
Post #83286 7th Aug 2011 6:50am
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mse



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Over engineered isnt always good - sometimes making this flex and even break can protect something else. Uprate your clutch see how long the gear box lasts! Mike
Post #83290 7th Aug 2011 7:44am
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Setok



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I'm a fan of solid made-to-last engineering. OK, so what exactly, and in detail, does the G Wagen have engineered better that the Defender should take note of? Anything that could be done without raising the price too much?
Post #83299 7th Aug 2011 9:21am
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pannawonica



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To improve 35 spline, inch and half drive shafts and hypoid diffs.
Steering lock increased would be good, however I am very pleased with my Puma. Thumbs Up
Post #83302 7th Aug 2011 11:07am
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RED-DOT



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Build a chassis frame from thicker steel and prevent it turning to dust in 6 years... Stop trying to sell it as a hardy vehicle when most components fail after gentle use? G Wagen components and chassis way more robust and they make Unimogs which ARE the best 4X4Xfar. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
Post #83303 7th Aug 2011 11:13am
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WoodyV8



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Crap that'll be why I'm replacing the chassis on mine after 23 years now then..... and even that's down to a bit of neglect.


Do you even like Land Rovers, Red Dot? Rolling Eyes Anything you can do, I can do slower and less efficiently.
Post #83309 7th Aug 2011 11:52am
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RED-DOT



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Of course i do but like many on here i am not blinkered or unaware there other vehicles too.... 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
Post #83310 7th Aug 2011 11:56am
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pannawonica



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There are plenty of Landies of all types running all over the Pilbara, including leafers that are on origial chassis.
However I like to compare apples with apples price wise. G wagons and unimogs are priced in a different league to
Defenders, a similar Tojo is about fifty percent more dollars.
Post #83313 7th Aug 2011 12:05pm
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LESVOSD110



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RED-DOT wrote:
Build a chassis frame from thicker steel and prevent it turning to dust in 6 years... Stop trying to sell it as a hardy vehicle when most components fail after gentle use? G Wagen components and chassis way more robust and they make Unimogs which ARE the best 4X4Xfar.


I wonder why they the did not send the Unimogs through the land of OZ then.Your target buying power off course.Add over 60000 Euros of components to a Defender and see what you can build.Same can be said for the Land Cruiser,two vehicles that still circle the globe and have been seen by people who do not know what a vehicles are. Puma 110 SW
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Post #83317 7th Aug 2011 12:53pm
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pannawonica



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You can get a new Puma 110 for @53 Oz dollars on road.
Cruisers are @75 Oz dollars and G Wagons 130/160@ dependant on model plus on road costs !
Post #83319 7th Aug 2011 1:06pm
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pannawonica



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Unimog in Oz
Yes they did, the Army has them and they are in the process of aquiring more. Thumbs Up
Post #83322 7th Aug 2011 1:30pm
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Carl l



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A lot of similarities between the G-Wagen and 110. A key difference is that such elementary failures should not happen at the inflated price tag of the G. All the Australian 4x4 sites have been saying a Land Cruiser-200 Series would have had no such issues. I don't doubt that. Current: 2011 Shogun SWB 3.2td 200hp stock, Auto (my knees are shot), but this is a great farm truck
Prev: a Disco (got old), a Range Rover (too ostentatious) and a Defender (knees).
Tractor: 1993 Ford 8830, 6.6td, 180hp at PTO stock
Post #90004 19th Sep 2011 3:47pm
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Tazz



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Re: Unimog in Oz
pannawonica wrote:
Yes they did, the Army has them and they are in the process of aquiring more. Thumbs Up


1800 more!

I wonder, with the price being so much more than a defender, what the G Wagen offers the army above and beyond the Defender?


Tazz
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