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LR09WA

Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 88

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

G Wagon Fail..

http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/outback...1ie5s.html

5th Aug 2011 1:55am

pannawonica

Member Since: 21 Nov 2010
Location: Clackline Western Australia
Posts: 568

Have you seen the price of those things?
I know we can have our little issues, same thing happens with Tojos at work more frequently than you would think.
I also think that they have not been driving with any mechanical simpathy, the oil in the shocks can get
hot enough to burn the paint off on corregations.However you would probably be aware of reduced damping
performance before this event.

5th Aug 2011 3:58am

ken

Member Since: 18 Aug 2009
Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !!
Posts: 4328

And of course a Standard Puma would have faired better

At Least MB are trying to do a bit unlike LR at the mo love some of the comments god they love Toyotas

5th Aug 2011 6:32am

farmer giles

Member Since: 09 Feb 2011
Location: worcestershire
Posts: 1299

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Cairns Blue

nice to see that air con is considered a neccessity when Len Beadeall spent 15 years in the outback WA in a series 1 WITHOUT aircon.

5th Aug 2011 7:07am

RED-DOT

Member Since: 29 Jun 2009
Location: stirling
Posts: 2363

With a vehicle as good as a G-Wagen it would be easy to forget the torture the running gear is going through and drive it un-sympathetically... I had a LWB Petrol which was totally reliable for 3 years and it is the only car i wish i kept. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..

5th Aug 2011 9:12am

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2416

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

They are excellent. I would mind to swap for a G Wagen! Puma 110" SW

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Earth first. Other planets later

5th Aug 2011 11:01am

defender 1

Member Since: 19 Jul 2011
Location: stanley
Posts: 12

1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi HT Alpine White

best vehicle i ever owned just getting the parts down here was very expensive

5th Aug 2011 11:11pm

Setok

Member Since: 16 Jan 2009
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 422

Am I the only one that doesn't really get the G Wagon? Every time I see one it seems to be like a slightly ugly version of the Defender (huge similarities, and Land Rover was a template for them). It's over twice the price (and Defenders aren't cheap). Seems parts are expensive too. It has lockers on all axles, which is nice, but loses in many other offroad areas to the Defender. So what's so great about them?

I agree, though, that if Land Rover was serious about this kind of stuff, they should be doing something to show it. They really seem more interested in poncy Beckhammobiles than building great, functional vehicles.

5th Aug 2011 11:54pm

22900013A

Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 3149

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green

There has been a G-wagen for sale at my local(ish) merc dealer for some time now, 80,000+ pounds. I don't know how they justify it at all. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"

6th Aug 2011 9:03am

BigMike

Member Since: 13 Jul 2010
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 2253

We know that all vehicles can have issues, but for 6 of 7 new vehicles to burst shocks on corrugation is downright poor. Unless of course they were heavily overloaded, but then if that's the case they should have known better.

standard LR shocks can and do burst on corrugation too though, esp in very hot weather.

6th Aug 2011 10:21am

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8581

I like the following parts of that report

Quote:

"When we undertook this journey we were well aware of the punishment that the vehicles would endure," he says. "We put in place a group of very experienced Outback operators who have the expertise and logistical knowledge to cover off any eventuality. This planning has more than paid off in ensuring that we reach our goal of Halls Creek on August 9, 2011.

"I have complete faith in the team out on the Canning and the thorough logistics and preparation the team have put in place," says von Sanden.

and

Quote:

Local spokesman David McCarthy says the broken shock absorbers - and three snapped spare wheel mounts - were expected.

So with thorough logistics and preparation by experienced outback operators to cover every eventuality AND expecting shock absorbers to fail they did not carry spare ones?

So on the face of those statements I would question their experience/preparation/thorough logistics etc.

As a solo vehicle in 08 touring Australia I carried spare shocks. There again I did not have the luxury of an international company who would fly in spares nor did I have a mechanic on board.

Yes when we got back to the UK we had to change the shocks.

Brendan

6th Aug 2011 11:15am

LESVOSD110

Member Since: 19 Aug 2009
Location: South Africa
Posts: 241

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Fuji White

The Greek army use these,and they do fail often even from engine related problems.All vehicles do have there quirks but some better than others.The best for me is,the SA built series III with the ADE diesel.Low reving thumper that Toyo used aswell. Puma 110 SW
90 V8 SOFT TOP

6th Aug 2011 12:31pm

Zagato
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Member Since: 08 Jan 2011
Location: Billingshurst West Sussex
Posts: 5013

I'm confused as I'd read reviews and seen on the box that they were dated in design when they first came out years ago, were incredibly heavy etc and where not well regarded, they were the bottom of the pile for 4x4,s. Maybe that was an older model

maybe 6-7 years ago! I thought they were discontinuing them as they were an old product and sales had plummeted! Odd!

6th Aug 2011 2:48pm

pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

LESVOSD110 wrote:
The Greek army use these,and they do fail often even from engine related problems.All vehicles do have there quirks but some better than others.The best for me is,the SA built series III with the ADE diesel.Low reving thumper that Toyo used aswell.

No wonder the country is smoked if they were spunking cash on g wagons.

Pom

6th Aug 2011 4:00pm

RED-DOT

Member Since: 29 Jun 2009
Location: stirling
Posts: 2363

If you know about engineering look under a G Class then look under your Defender and see the difference... Made by Daimler Steyer Puch and not by accountants. I would have one again in a minute but to see the massive over-engineering and rust protection on a G Class would make a welder weep. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..

6th Aug 2011 8:47pm

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