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symmo



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2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
OIL CHANGE
I need to know if changing the oil & filter on the Puma engine is a straight forward job, I'm told there are two filters to change is that correct, I'm hoping it's just a case of draing old oil spin off filter and so on, where is the filter? if anyone can talk me through it , I'm totally new to Defenders coming from Series 1. Thanks for any info.
Post #8793 22nd Mar 2009 5:48pm
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mse



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Ive not serviced mine myself yet but it has been done.

I was told there is one filter and i understand it to be in/behind the black dome unit underneath with a plastic nut type thing on it - passenger side Mike
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fekete



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Yep changed mine really easy just watch when you open the drain plug because the oil flows quickly
(if you get oil on anything wd40 is the best to remove it i.e drive) NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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shingwell



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If you're going to do this on a regular basis, well worth investing in one of these:

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/21663/Van-Ca...-Extractor

- easier and far less messy. Good for lawnmowers and things too.
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mse



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Even better is this...http://shop.difflock.com/difflock-drainplu...537c8a6ed9 im not sure if they have one for the new defender yet, but its really easy (have one on all other LR products) Mike
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fekete



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Thats the ticket mse,excellent solution NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #8815 22nd Mar 2009 7:04pm
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mse



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fekete wrote:
Thats the ticket mse,excellent solution


They are good - drain oil, clean a little locktite on the thread and then fit and forget - ive extended the pipe so you go underneath when warm, remove the cap - screw in and it drains straight to the waste container...really no mess

Do up, change filter (ice cream container) and your done. Mike
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fekete



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Yep next on the list, Will save time and all the mess NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #8818 22nd Mar 2009 7:27pm
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BigMike



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The easy drain plug for the tdci is now on difflock and probably has been for a while. Does anyone happen to know if the torque setting for the new one should be the same as the standard drain plug? I think its 17 lb ft from memory for the standard
Post #51156 5th Jan 2011 2:06pm
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jst



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its pretty straight fwd to change the oil and if your from a S1 back ground it should be a walk in the park.

there is one filter, access it from under the vehicle, its on one side of the engine a tad higher than the sump located in a black platic dome which has a large platic nut on the end of it 32mm? or similar IIRC.

undo the sump plug, drain the oil, preferably when its warm, removed the plastic dome, (filter will come out with it) use a plastic bag to contain it all (ie hand in bag, undo and wrap bag around as it undoes). Filter is held in by push fit on a central spindle, just pull it out, clean out the plastic bowl, fit new filter with new seal and refit. personally i dont bother pre filling the filter with oil.

wait for engine oil to drain, refit sump plug and refill.

IIRC engine takes 7L of oil.

i do a change every 6k on mine.

i prefer the sump plug out method as it allows a good flow of oil and would take any debris out with it over the suction methods, but i use the suction methods on vehicles where i do a high mileage ie 1k miles a week so oil changes are very regular. Cheers

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mse



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Diff lock sump plug is the way forward for quick and clean oil changes

Been on for a while - refit torque was on the side when i got mine Mike
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MartinK



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Was just planning my early-life oil change (at about 1000 miles).

On the Workshop Manual it says:

Quote:
6. Install a new drain plug.
Clean the component mating faces.
Tighten the drain plug to 23 Nm (17 lb.ft).
Remove the container.


Install a new drain plug? That's a bit extreme? Usually it's just a new crush washer (on my old TD5, and indeed most other cars/vehicles I have owned).

Does anyone actually do this, or just clean and refit?

NB - Don't want to do the difflock easy-drain until it's out of warranty...

It also says re the plastic oil filter housing:

Quote:
9. Install the oil filter cover and oil filter element.
Tighten the oil filter cover to 35 Nm (26 lb.ft).


That also seems awful tight for a plastic (I assume?) oil filter housing? My Volvo one is only 9Nm I think... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)


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Post #91342 26th Sep 2011 8:18am
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BigMike



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you dont need a new drain plug.

but seconded re the diff lock drain plug. Not sure why you would wait until out of warranty. it makes oil changes a clean, easy and quick job.
Post #91343 26th Sep 2011 8:19am
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mse wrote:
Even better is this...http://shop.difflock.com/difflock-drainplu...537c8a6ed9 im not sure if they have one for the new defender yet, but its really easy (have one on all other LR products)


Yes exist for Puma also, installed mine one years ago............

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And when you see the size of the new filter in comparison to what LR usually uses you will be amazed that a filter so small can actually clean oil for the duration of the service interval. 6,000 miles for me maximum. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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