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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324  
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It's an interesting debate around whether to restore to 'factory' finish or not, which I guess isn't such an issue with more ordinary classic cars. I think that because Land Rovers can lead such interesting and varied working lives, there's more of an interest in keeping the outward signs - the battle scars and patina. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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17th Jan 2021 9:59am |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 
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I wonder where he got that idea from? i did look into it in quite some detail, only found evidence of bronze green vehicles and grey vehicles having them, outside of that would be special order, such as my SEB 109"s. The build card on my series III actually states "wheels to be completed in body colour" as it was not standard. They do seem to have experimented a bit in the very early series II days, for example there were more than one shades of grey paint available, for example a rather dark grey shade, but they were quickly dropped. Grey vehicles dod have grey wheels at the very start but again it was dropped very quickly. I was once told that blue vehicles had white wheels (as opposed to limestone) but I don't know how correct that is. There is a factory document somewhere which lists all the colour combinations. I've certainly never seen another light green vehicle with matching wheels that wasn't a special order. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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17th Jan 2021 10:21am |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1283 
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It is your vehicle, but not taking Philip's advice (he does know a thing or two about values of old Land Rovers  ) was a mistake, I'm afraid.
If used, the shininess will wear off and it will become an "older restoration". With a vehicle that was so original (even the hard top with no windows is rare) the wisest choice would have been to keep it as original as possible, because there are an increasing number of restored/re-painted vehicles, and a decreasing number of nice, unmolested (or sympathetically brought back to life) originals. Too late now though, and I hope you enjoy it - because it does look nice. |
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20th Jan 2021 1:36pm |
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| BaronDefenders Member Since: 28 Jun 2019 Location: London/Cotswolds Posts: 896 
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To some extent I would have to agree. But it was never the aim of the project to have the patina kept.
I think that if it had been kept looking as found, it would get used more than it does. It really ought to have PPF applied but maybe that’s something to consider in the future. One thing I sorely regret is that there was a seriously low mileage (5,170) Series 1 LWB truck cab in the auction and I didn’t bid on it. 
 Click image to enlarge Charlie 1949 Series 1 80 (SOLD) 2002 Td5 90 (SOLD) 2008 Freelander 2 (SOLD) 1958 Series 2 88 Pastel Green (2019 LR Legends Best Restored) 1983 V8 110 Limestone (Previously owned by Tom Sheppard MBE) 2004 Td5 90 Santorini Black (Td5INSIDE Powered & Rebuilt by CSK) 2012 Puma 110 Zermatt Silver (Overlanding Build) Instagram: @BaronDefenders |
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20th Jan 2021 4:45pm |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1283
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That barn find Series One 109" does seem a bit special, if that mileage is correct.
(I may be a tad biased though....) Click image to enlarge |
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20th Jan 2021 5:58pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17376 
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Haha, there can't be many of us on here who could tell from that photo that it is a 109" not a 107"!
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20th Jan 2021 6:05pm |
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| defender9 Member Since: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Fylde Coast Posts: 1629 
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Radiator panel and horn position were the two most obvious ones to me
 I have to say though that I don’t think I have seen the bonnet prop on that side on a 109 before. |
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20th Jan 2021 6:29pm |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1283
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Diesels on one side, petrols on the other?
The other interesting thing about that barn find is the sleeved holes in the No2 crossmember for fitting a capstan winch. My diesel 109" doesn't have them. |
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20th Jan 2021 6:46pm |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7905 
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I love the rivet counter chat! Constantly amazes me!!
James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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20th Jan 2021 6:51pm |
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| BaronDefenders Member Since: 28 Jun 2019 Location: London/Cotswolds Posts: 896
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I’d love to know what’s happened to the 109” as I haven’t seen or heard anything about it since the auction in 2018.
I think the mileage was probably correct. It was kitted out with a tank and spraying equipment in the rear bed, so I suspect it spent its life just doing laps of the farm. Charlie 1949 Series 1 80 (SOLD) 2002 Td5 90 (SOLD) 2008 Freelander 2 (SOLD) 1958 Series 2 88 Pastel Green (2019 LR Legends Best Restored) 1983 V8 110 Limestone (Previously owned by Tom Sheppard MBE) 2004 Td5 90 Santorini Black (Td5INSIDE Powered & Rebuilt by CSK) 2012 Puma 110 Zermatt Silver (Overlanding Build) Instagram: @BaronDefenders |
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20th Jan 2021 6:57pm |
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| Fat Cog Member Since: 19 Mar 2012 Location: Oxfordshire & Devon Posts: 502 
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Just stumbled upon this thread & rather enjoyed viewing the rebuild & thought the finished article to be simply stunning, in fact beautiful!
The pros & cons of restoring to factory finish are I think a personal thing & in testament to this I had my XS serviced yesterday at EH Douglas Wardington (excellent indy if anyones local to Banbury area) & when I dropped it off I saw a lovely, shall we say 'patina'd' (is their such a word?) 88" Series 2 & enquired if it was a barn find, only to be told it was a daily runner & that it was just in for a routine service, it was equally beautiful in a working lived in sort of way & I wished I'd taken a photo to present to you all. Finally, like the 109 mentioned, most of us have long lost Land Rovers & I often wonder what happened to my 1957 Series 1 496 NRF, its no longer on the DVLA data base so I'm assuming its long gone but I'm thinking of starting a thread 'Long lost Land Rovers...anyone know their whereabouts' as I'm sure with the plethora of knowledge & ownership history of folks on this forum many of the long lost Land Rovers will have passed through lots of hands...or am I being over optimistic?!?! Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains |
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20th Jan 2021 7:31pm |
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| seriesonenut Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Essex Posts: 1211
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That's a great idea Fat Cog, I am still hunting one of mine! 2010 XS USW
1957 Series One 88 diesel 1958 Series One 88 4x2 |
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20th Jan 2021 7:34pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17376
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The sleeved holes also indicate that it was a factory-fitted capstan.
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20th Jan 2021 7:35pm |
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| Fat Cog Member Since: 19 Mar 2012 Location: Oxfordshire & Devon Posts: 502
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Seriesonenut...Yes its an obsession! The last sighting of my S1 was in Lancashire helping out towing a trailer for a house renovation, after that the trail went cold...I still live in hope its sat forlorn in a shed or similar somewhere just waiting for me...my wife has told, or rather instructed me on more than one occasion "just let it go"!!! Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains |
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20th Jan 2021 7:39pm |
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