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22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150 |
In a nutshell, its is just too far removed from the existing product. With the Range Rover the linage is clear, from the various version of the classic (which I think they managed to keep looking fresh right up until the end) the P38 which had certain styling cues in common, and then the new ones and also the sport, which all hark back to their predecessors. They got it so right at each step, even if the P38 was not as good as it could have been. Personally I have no issues with them but have never owned one.
Even the Freelander has a clear design evolution from the original version, to the facelift, to the replacement model. This thing just doesn't look like a Defender in any way, if you covered the badges up I think many people, fans and MOPs, would not know who it was made by, or assume it was a far-eastern manufacturer. Jeep still make a Jeep that looks like a Jeep, so I see no reason for Landrover to do the same. This is of course not the first concept Defender, but is probably not the last to just fall by the wayside as rejected. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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2nd Sep 2011 6:09pm |
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mrtod Member Since: 05 May 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 8 |
Still if I can't learn to love the new Defender when it goes into production I can always build one of these instead...
Click image to enlarge http://projectd90.blogspot.com/ - a work in progress. |
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2nd Sep 2011 6:32pm |
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mrtod Member Since: 05 May 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 8 |
Me too, when I the win the lotto I will have a 4 door poptop camper and a short wheelbase convertible http://projectd90.blogspot.com/ - a work in progress. |
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2nd Sep 2011 6:43pm |
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bjoern h Member Since: 21 Aug 2007 Location: Surnadal Posts: 19 |
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2nd Sep 2011 7:10pm |
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mrtod Member Since: 05 May 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 8 |
http://projectd90.blogspot.com/ - a work in progress. |
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2nd Sep 2011 7:16pm |
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CFB Member Since: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire Posts: 803 |
Joking aside, that would really fit the bill Andy
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2nd Sep 2011 7:22pm |
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mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038 |
Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Mike |
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2nd Sep 2011 7:39pm |
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johnszs Member Since: 16 Aug 2010 Location: Hereford Posts: 459 |
looks very hummer fied to me, but on the upside mines going up in value 2004 TD5 Defender 90 xs station wagon
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2nd Sep 2011 9:14pm |
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Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 422 |
It's brutal. Beginning to like that! |
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3rd Sep 2011 12:43am |
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bjoern h Member Since: 21 Aug 2007 Location: Surnadal Posts: 19 |
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3rd Sep 2011 7:05am |
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Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 422 |
Better, but now looks like a Land Cruiser or something (still an improvement, though). Doesn't look or feel like a Defender. |
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3rd Sep 2011 8:30am |
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mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038 |
Im sorry i can see the defender likeness, maybe if they had done more of a halfway house like with the Disco and Range Rover...but there is definite likeness Mike
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3rd Sep 2011 8:46am |
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fishrider Member Since: 01 Dec 2010 Location: Cornwall Posts: 79 |
I was pretty negative about it in an earlier post. I appreciate that a new defender is on the way, it's been a long time coming. I'm sure it'll be a fantastic vehicle. I reckon this is just a very very early prototype.
It's certainly got a reaction , which is exactly what publicity is all about. A clear path has been drawn on which way to take this project. I guess if they want to take back some market share from the Asian pick-up sector, it needs to be more car like in terms of drivability. Maybe even make a loss for the first few years.. Make a car that's just so much better and more desirable than a bog standard pick-up at the same price level, clean up on the Market for sure. I'm picking on "pick-ups" because where I live in Cornwall pretty much all working cars that aren't Defenders are them. Plus I've driven a Hilux in Africa and it pains me to say it ,they're comfortable. I'm sure this is the main factor in it. Which makes me question why the ride of the defender wasn't sorted out a bit sooner ? 110 HT TD5 - 110 XS SW Puma |
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3rd Sep 2011 2:10pm |
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Carl l Member Since: 03 Sep 2011 Location: Northern Hemisphere Posts: 9 |
My wish list is good economy but not at the expense of capacity. 2.2 liters is the bare minimum for a farm tow vehicle.
I also don't want to see curb weight drop, heavyweight components are key. Yes, economy is nice but 28-30 is plenty, I don't need 40. Make sure the brakes aren't so big that we can't fit 16 or max 17" wheels. Strengthen roof pillars. Try and retain that Defender look AND ability. Offer an automatic gearbox for those of us with knee issues. Years of driving a Ford 8830 and a TD5 with 120k of slow miles on it takes its toll. |
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3rd Sep 2011 3:10pm |
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