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Huttopia Member Since: 23 Feb 2016 Location: West Midlands Posts: 1972 |
It feels like only 3 weeks ago Boris was saying the measures he was putting in place would control the infection rate and flatten the curve, all backed by the scientists seemingly running the show. It is exasperating. Every time Boris opens his mouth the revenues in companies I’m working with take a tumble. Every single time.
The latest measures don’t satisfy anyone, the scientists want them to go further, the hospitality industry is still asking for evidence it is the root of all evil, and Joe Public in ‘the north’ is (based on the vox pops on R4) pretty hacked off with it all too. Time to move quickly to personal responsibility and allow people to make their own decisions based on their own set of circumstances and attitude to risk. |
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12th Oct 2020 6:05pm |
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 |
"It feels like only 3 weeks ago Boris was saying the measures he was putting in place would control the infection rate and flatten the curve, all backed by the scientists seemingly running the show. "
According to the news i heard this morning, it was 3 weeks ago the scientists were saying do more now, and Boris decided to ignore them? When there is talk of more measures because the current ones aren't working, i never see the difference made between not working with full compliance and not working because compliance is low. |
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13th Oct 2020 8:41am |
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Huttopia Member Since: 23 Feb 2016 Location: West Midlands Posts: 1972 |
Indeed Supacat, hard to know what to believe. I think people are turning away from the daily diet of coronavirus headlines in droves.
No doubt there will soon be a legal challenge from the hospitality industry regarding the evidence for the 10pm curfew / shutting of pubs. That could get messy as it appears the govt is leaning on an academic report from the US as the basis for making these decisions. |
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13th Oct 2020 8:48am |
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ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831 |
Don't we have Concerns, restrictions? The last time I ventured off my small property without concern for my health was 12th March 2020, the day after I caught the flu from a student who I had been assisting with a computer problem. Panic set in, mind racing I rang a close relative and made sure he had instructions if the end came. I had been using hand gel but not a mask as the use of them had not been suggested, I tried going back to work wearing a FFP3 mask ,protective shield and hand sanitiser but still didn't feel safe having to be only feet away from different students who didn't feel it necessary to even take one of the precautions as they think that they will not be ill with it and sod anyone else. So I remain at home . During the initial lock down people worked together to help stop the spread but now as the daily totals go up even the delivery drivers don't use hand sanitiser of war facemasks , the only one I have seen is the foot slogging postie who wears a face mask and is constantly rubbing in hand gel which is at his own expense as the good old Royal mail say its not mandatory of necessary. Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to us off. Richard |
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13th Oct 2020 9:01am |
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GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10379 |
I've just spoken to my boss for him to have a 'refresher' meeting with staff, as attitudes are slipping towards hand washing/distancing etc.
Those that want to be careful, will, the rest of the population are just rocking on as normal. We (missus and I) are still being careful, refusing visitors to our home, we've stopped shooting, stopped trialling, not eaten out on any evening and generally trying to protect ourselves, or if we are venturing out, we go where we are satisfied that the place is as safe as can be. I've transformed my own health, got back on my bike after 5 years of being fat and lazy and even ridden into work today in a jacket I wore when I was racing 15 years ago...it fits better now! I feel fortunate in life. Watch some b'stard spoil it |
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13th Oct 2020 10:51am |
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Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1283 |
One thing we don't know is how high the infection rate would have been without any restrictions.
All criticism should be subject to that caveat. One thing I do know is that everyone knows better than Boris - but few of them agree with each other. Personally, I think the country should be run by London taxi drivers. They're the people who really know how to rule the country. |
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13th Oct 2020 4:42pm |
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90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2141 |
Can't be any worse......
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13th Oct 2020 7:15pm |
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Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3782 |
Don't believe it?!
You guys haven't had anywhere near the level of restrictions we've had, and based on our experience, I still think Boris should've clamped down sooner. This thing spreads like wildfire, and therefore "contact tracing" is of the utmost importance. Every State in Aussie has its own system, Victoria's (where we live) is not so good. We had 3 infections appear in the country 300ks away from Melbourne,...how did it get there and who took it there?,.....and how many people did those 3 infect while getting there?...we don't know,....3 can go to 30, to 300 in a flash, depending where these 3 people have been on their journey. All of the contacts of those, just 3 people, have to be traced & tested, because any of them could be infectious. For instance, if any of those 3 people entered a shop or a cafe along the way, well then all of the people that were in that cafe etc at the time would also have to be checked,....it's a nightmare. The Victorian State Govt is being pushed very hard to release restrictions, and we probably have to for the sake of the economy, but I believe they think, and with good reason, they don't have the ability to control it, and that a third wave will absolutely cripple the country.....We have first class medical/hospital facilities, but even a small outbreak would overwhelm them in no time. Stay safe Pickles. |
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13th Oct 2020 10:22pm |
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GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10379 |
It’s worse than that.
Covid can stay active on a hard surface for up to 28 days. Think about that one. That’s not a rumour, it’s fact. (Mrs G is a Director for an infection control company). |
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14th Oct 2020 5:55am |
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Doc P Member Since: 03 Apr 2016 Location: Midlands Posts: 565 |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-54535481
I was young once but I think i still held a belief then that I had a responsibility to try and protect others from harm if i could. My dad was a copper too. |
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14th Oct 2020 10:54am |
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90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2141 |
To be clear my comment was aimed at the comments that @Slideywindows made about cabbies and such.......
Current f&kctards would struggle to arrange a large party in a nightclub full of party people already high on poppers and such......... |
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14th Oct 2020 8:17pm |
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Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3256 |
3 days max according to studies. https://coronavirusexplained.ukri.org/en/article/pub0008/ https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-resear...faces-days WARNING. This post may contain sarcasm. |
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14th Oct 2020 9:35pm |
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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
Those articles date from March and May. Greeni's post is based on much more recent research. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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15th Oct 2020 5:21am |
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Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3256 |
Ahh yes. I just read about the Australian study but it's not quite as scary as the headline suggests. It will be interesting to see how that turns out. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct...tists-find
It's possible to detect it after 28 days if not subjected to UV light and at 20 degrees but it may not be contagious.
It will be interesting to see how that study progresses and the others that follow. WARNING. This post may contain sarcasm. |
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15th Oct 2020 7:22am |
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