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spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4646 |
Our advisory body here has issued advice to the government tonight that we go into the highest lockdown level i.e. level five. Seems to have taken the government by surprise. Things are not going well. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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4th Oct 2020 10:32pm |
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Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1283 |
Surely Donald Superman is proving that this Covid thing is a complete myth?
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5th Oct 2020 4:31pm |
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spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4646 |
Mr Trump will no doubt claim that he beat it and he has no ill effects. Not everybody will have access to the immediate and top notch treatment of which he availed. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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5th Oct 2020 4:41pm |
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Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3484 |
In America, you are lucky to have health insurance. To bad if you haven’t.
Seems a nice day to go for a ride in the car, Donald. Just feel sorry for the driver. I hope he / she was well isolated. |
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5th Oct 2020 5:42pm |
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90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2141 |
FAKE news - don't believe the 'greatest ever' has even had the disease.......stunt
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5th Oct 2020 7:17pm |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17352 |
Apparently not. The presidential SUV is hermetically sealed and the "experts" on TV are saying it's about the worst possible environment for spreading (outside of student halls-of-residence). |
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5th Oct 2020 9:24pm |
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Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3782 |
Can I be honest with my UK friends?
To be honest, in terms of what I've seen in this thread, I'm showing more concern for the Virus than you guys,...and I'm 12000 miles away, and this is in spite of increasing infections in the UK. Aren't any of you guys affected by the Virus? From what I'm seeing in the Media, you're having very few restrictions placed upon you by Boris, despite thousands of infections,....do you have any restrictions,..shopping, visiting friends, driving, travel restrictions??...Do you have any of these? We've had all of them,..FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. If you don't, you should have, because this virus will not go away on its own, it will only get worse. Just my thoughts, having seen how quickly & easily infections can, & will, occur. Pickles. |
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10th Oct 2020 8:03am |
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Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3484 |
Everything in the UK is localised as far as advice.
We have the usual general advice to socially distance, wash hands regularly and wear masks when we are within shops. Where I live in the east of England, apart from an area of Great Yarmouth, there is very little infection. We have no specific restrictions. The North West and North East are having more restrictions as they have higher infection rates, Nicola Sturgeon has just shut pubs, restaurants and cafes for 16 days to curb their rising numbers. I believe there is still a large proportion of people still working from home. The reason I say this is the busses and trains have reported much much lower usage. The ability to work from home is very dependant on your employment. Some of our University’s have had some high infections and you have to feel for a kid that has just left home for the first time and having to self isolate in a hall of residence. |
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10th Oct 2020 8:45am |
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22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 |
The problem with strict lockdowns is that it is all well and good if you are locked up with your family, pets etc - but for those of us who live alone, and especially people with physical and mental health issues it is absolute torture. There are rumours that the suicide rate has skyrocketed in recent months, and it wouldn't surprise me at all. I had a good six weeks or so without spending any time with any other person beyond, say, the person ringing up my shopping. It was utterly horrible. Its still not good, as we are still a long way from "normal", assuming we ever do get back there. I'm not saying we shouldn't be acting to stop the virus, but we can't ignore the impact the lockdown has had on a lot of people. I'm okay now, but believe me the lockdown pushed me into a very dark place indeed, which I don't think I would want to repeat. I do worry about the impact on the economy, especially once furlough ends, we are going to be paying for this for decades. 2011 110 USW
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10th Oct 2020 9:18am |
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Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3484 |
They are very fair comments 22900013A.
The other big problem has been domestic abuse which has increased. I am not a party going person. I like my own company. I am in no hurry to go back and be forced to co-habit with a bunch of people at work but I have to say that I am finding this tiring. I keep reminding myself that I am one of the lucky ones. I still have a job, I have a reasonable sized house and garden and I have had plenty of things to get on with to keep me occupied during the last few months. My parents live in the house next door so I could keep an eye on them, but the thought of winter and an uncertain Christmas period does not fill me with joy. It's no one's fault and I believe that rightly or wrongly, most of our world's leaders are doing the best they can with what they have and the information they have at the time. I don't think the internet and social media or the media in general have helped the situation at all. In fact they may have made things a lot worse through mis-information and poor communications. I have absolutely no time for these so called experts who stand up in the media and tell us what we should have done 6 months ago. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and makes criticism or so easy. I should have kept my Series 2A and bought a couple of Series 1's when they were only making a few hundred quid. |
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10th Oct 2020 10:06am |
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mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769 |
I wasn’t going to post on here as my views are probably going to be seen as stupid but here goes. The problem I see with lockdown restrictions is, we now have massive backlogs of untreated medical problems which are going to overwhelm the nhs or cause many more deaths than the virus would have. I say this because the average age of death from the virus is 85! And that’s usually 85 with comorbidities. The testing programme is ramping up so with more testing you are more likely to find more infections BUT deaths aren’t skyrocketing too, so I can’t see any point in locking everything down again. This linked with the problem of deaths being marked as COVID when they aren’t (I have experienced this so know it’s true) shows the numbers are a guess at best. I’m not trying to say there isn’t a virus (no tin foil hat here) but I am saying we should have carried on as normal from the beginning with social distancing put in place (no masks as they are useless if you look at the science) and people asked to work from home if possible. We don’t shut down for seasonal flu and we accept it will kill many hundreds of thousands a year so why for this? Ray
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10th Oct 2020 10:23am |
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22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 |
Sounds like we are singing from the same hymn sheet there. ^^
Ideally I would have liked to have been out and about enjoying life this year, maybe even meet a lass but that's not going to happen for the foreseeable future. I'm also curious what metric will be used to decide when lockdown/distancing( I refuse to call it social distancing as its anything but social)/masks will be dropped? Will they ever? We have to, at some point, just get on with life with this virus exactly as we do with flu etc. It just seems to me we are inflicting great misery and poverty on millions of people for very little measurable benefit. 🤷♂️ 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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10th Oct 2020 12:45pm |
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Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3782 |
Some good "feelings" there, certainly common to some of mine.
Australia is a very large space as you'd know, divided into several States, but Victoria is the only State to have suffered a severe outbreak, thanks to shambolick quarantine procedures, so we are lucky that it's been somewhat confined. However all States have closed their borders, so we cannot travel between States without a permit. Melbourne residents can't travel more than 5ks from home & are not allowed out of city boundaries. Although Victoria has had the major outbreak, it forms a major part of the economy, the cost to which is HUGE, borrowings are at a simply unimaginable level and it will take decades to repair the damage. Mental health issues are cause for concern here also. What surprises me relative to you guys is that whilst you are a relatively small densely populated country, some areas appear to be virtually unaffected. Pickles. (And you guys may think, why my interest in the UK?, well don't forget I'm an "Old Pom", 50% Welsh, emigrated from Manchester in 1958 (still follow M.U.) and I never forget, and am very proud of, my British heritage. |
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10th Oct 2020 10:26pm |
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Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223 |
I think I will book my plot now 1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
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10th Oct 2020 11:42pm |
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