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| keef9t Member Since: 13 Mar 2016 Location: manchester Posts: 172   
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It's a YES from me. Ok we can all find the odd thing we don't like but that applies to any vehicle. We compromise on the little things if overall we like it.
I think INEOS are on to a winner here. If I were Jim Ratcliffe I wouldn't hang around getting it into production. There's going to be a lot of skilled labour looking for work shortly. Re- double the efforts in building the factory (think Chinese/Japanese and build in months rather than years) Get the workforce on your side by giving them a stake in the product. I say this, cos at 70yrs of age, I want one before I have to give up driving  |
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1st Jul 2020 6:13pm |
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| mattc Member Since: 10 Apr 2019 Location: Cheshire Posts: 73 
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Much better than I was expecting. The back and side look good and I like the slightly G Wagen / Defender cues. Not keen at all on the front grill, lights or funny looking bonnet though. Maybe it will grow on me.
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1st Jul 2020 6:21pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4722 
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I would not be surprised to hear that Mr JR keeps an eye on this forum, and others too no doubt, and is pleased with the reception the vehicle is getting. It is cheaper than getting a market research company to question people. I'd say the utility companies who do not find the new JLR product suitable are on his contact list as they would be planning ahead fleet wise. Also they would be buying in batches not single units so that is a good way to get your new vehicle to the market place. It will be interesting to see what the warranty will be and how claims will be dealt with. The GRENADIER will have something in common with the new JLR Defender, namely, both will be completely new to the dealers who will be carrying out warranty work on them.
I noticed that the crew cab pick up has a full sized door for the rear passengers. Does that mean there will be the same leg room for second seat passengers as in the station wagon version? Some crew cabs have very little room in the second row and really cramp passengers on any sort of long journey. There are bound to be electronics and sensors but to what level? Like I said before this is definitely heading in the right direction but the final product will tell a lot. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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1st Jul 2020 6:31pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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 Click image to enlarge Curious to see how this works in the flesh.
Like that 
And I see others on Pistonheads are saying that there's a toolkit behind the square on the small rear door.
Again, others making mention that these areas are wired for lights.
Who doesn't like removable doors, although there was always a debate about the legality, with the answer usually being a piece of baling twine secured across the opening would be classed as a restraint! |
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1st Jul 2020 6:42pm |
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| adafish Member Since: 30 Mar 2009 Location: atherstone Posts: 1385 
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Iveco Massif / Santana and Startech mash up.....and the rear lights i've seen similar on some VW T4's.....No likey from me.
 Putting Dreams on Drives at JLR Solihull.. |
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1st Jul 2020 6:44pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4722
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Earlier someone mentioned the possibility of a legal challenge from JLR regarding the close similarity between the Grenadier and the old Defender. Recently JEEP won a case in India against MAHINDRA who have to stop manufacturing one of their models. It is ironic that in the advertising for the model, MAHINDRA used to comment on how their model echoed the styling of the classic JEEP.As well as having to stop producing the model I presume there was a financial penalty as well.
I would say that there would be a lot of political pressure on JLR not to pursue a legal challenge given the amount of potential jobs that could be at stake. Besides as JLR had publically dumped the Defender probably would not do them any favours. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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1st Jul 2020 6:52pm |
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| keef9t Member Since: 13 Mar 2016 Location: manchester Posts: 172
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The electronics and sensors need to be left with the engine otherwise you will end up a vehicle too complex for some of the markets they are aiming at. Think 70 series Toyotas.
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1st Jul 2020 6:58pm |
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| Morepower Member Since: 08 Jan 2013 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 630 
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Pre-Registered for first wave of deposits... Nuff said...
As others have said already, Won't be long before the aftermarket are marking parts to make it look however you want it too... It doesn't matter how bad it is, It can always get worse... 2013 Bowler 110 (Sold) 2016 Bowler 90 Rally Spec (Sold) |
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1st Jul 2020 7:39pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4722
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So Britpart are based in Shropshire. Not a million miles from Wales. Handy for your parts supply
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1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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1st Jul 2020 7:53pm |
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| LRSpain004 Member Since: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Elche Posts: 68 
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pre registered to place a deposit when they open.
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1st Jul 2020 8:30pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1585 
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I think it looks very santana. £40k! It would cost £20k to get in that. I’ll be sticking with the old defender, £20k would see it better than when it rolled out of line 5 years ago.
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1st Jul 2020 8:32pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17475
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No reason why there should be any debate about it, there is no legal requirement for doors to be fitted as long as the vehicle is designed either not to have them or to be safe with them removed (ie they're not structural). |
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1st Jul 2020 8:42pm |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481  
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But even in 2016 a new one needed 20k spent on it to make it ok. 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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1st Jul 2020 8:46pm |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1286 
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I hope they do read this forum because I agree with many: Great start - but do something about that front end!
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1st Jul 2020 8:58pm |
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