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LandymanStefan



Member Since: 30 Aug 2017
Location: Surrey
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England 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Finished product. Bolted in with m4 countersunk bolts, didnt drill the top hole as i couldnt get my sausage fingers underneath the re inforcing bar to get a nut under there. If i really wanted to i could put at self tapper in but it really doesnt need it.

The sticker on the fuel pump is from the year 2000 so now im ready for doomsday

Edit have now put the carpet and rubber mat back. The is a very slight bulge in the floor but not noticable. I am planning to do the entire floor with silentcoat 3mm anyway so that should make it even less noticable.


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Supacat



Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
A useful mod, sort of thing JLR should have been doing from the get go ~ although why the whole floor panel shouldn't have been able to be removed is beyond me?
Post #823495 5th Apr 2020 3:54pm
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Tilly



Member Since: 04 May 2016
Location: Grimsby
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Indus Silver
Cleaned the freelander as it was filthy. It’s abit tatty up close but has 150k on the clock now and it never lets us down.


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Where as the defender has starting problems and always seems to have a flat battery. 3 years of ownership I though I need to pull my finger out and figure it out. Constantly pulling about 130mA when doing nothing.

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After pulling many fuses it appears to be an issue with the 12s socket wiring for a caravan. I never use it so pulled the fuse and current draw was 100mA less instantly. The wiring disappears up over the rear cross member before coming back down to the socket so assuming there is a relay up there somewhere which is causing a fault. Fingers crossed 🤞.
Post #823499 5th Apr 2020 4:19pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Supacat wrote:
A useful mod, sort of thing JLR should have been doing from the get go ~ although why the whole floor panel shouldn't have been able to be removed is beyond me?


I suppose in the strange world of modern Landrovers, when decisions are made purely on financial grounds rather than on the basis of good engineering, reliability, and maintainability, the numbers for a design change either to put an access panel or make the floor removable just don't stack up.

In the factory, the tank and plumbing is fitted to the chassis before the body, so no access issues. Once the vehicle is out of warranty, the customer is paying (up to £120 per hour) for the tank to be dropped or the body to be removed to access the tank. So the only cost to LR is the cost of warranty repairs which involve tank access, which I imagine are few and far between. I can't imagine that anyone has actually decided not to buy a Defender because of the poor access to the tank, so it has cost nothing in sales.

In the "good old days" the design team would have done it on the basis that it was "the right thing to do", whcih of course it is, but those days sadly are long gone.

I have to say that this is without doubt the neatest and most professional-looking access-hole modification I have yet seen, and a link to the marine fitting would be appreciated.

(I suspect also that I have over analysed this somewhat, I can only attribute this behaviour to the onset of cabin fever as a result of prolonged solitary confinement).
Post #823514 5th Apr 2020 5:50pm
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LandymanStefan



Member Since: 30 Aug 2017
Location: Surrey
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England 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
But then why would they put a hatch in a discovery 2 and not the defender?

The hatch is called a ‘marine port’ or ‘marine hatch’ it’s a 200mm version which is the inside diameter of the hole. I got this on off eBay for £16 inc post. If you pay a bit more you can get a black one. You can buy them from marine shops but when I was looking, by the time you added the post they were more expensive. I hope this helps.
Post #823527 5th Apr 2020 6:38pm
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JoolsB



Member Since: 28 Mar 2020
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Orkney Grey
I made myself a comfy armrest as after I fitted the seat risers, the lid was a bit low for in-traffic slouching.

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Post #823545 5th Apr 2020 7:43pm
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Zed



Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
LandymanStefan wrote:
But then why would they put a hatch in a discovery 2 and not the defender?

The hatch is called a ‘marine port’ or ‘marine hatch’ it’s a 200mm version which is the inside diameter of the hole. I got this on off eBay for £16 inc post. If you pay a bit more you can get a black one. You can buy them from marine shops but when I was looking, by the time you added the post they were more expensive. I hope this helps.


Great solution. Excellent work. WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm.
Post #823546 5th Apr 2020 7:55pm
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custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
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Tilly - As I think you’ve pretty much sussed that sounds like an energised Relay coil at that current draw to me. Standard 4 pin relays draw around that current in standard form.
It’s not a cert, but sounds like it to me. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #823549 5th Apr 2020 8:07pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17417

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
LandymanStefan wrote:
But then why would they put a hatch in a discovery 2 and not the defender?

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Good question! Perhaps because the Disco 2 was designed from the start with this arrangement of tank whereas the Defender rear tub predates the TD5 fuel tank by nearly 40 years. I don't suppose we'll ever really know.
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HardCharger



Member Since: 03 Mar 2013
Location: Manila
Posts: 739

Philippines 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
blackwolf wrote:
Supacat wrote:
A useful mod, sort of thing JLR should have been doing from the get go ~ although why the whole floor panel shouldn't have been able to be removed is beyond me?


I suppose in the strange world of modern Landrovers, when decisions are made purely on financial grounds rather than on the basis of good engineering, reliability, and maintainability, the numbers for a design change either to put an access panel or make the floor removable just don't stack up.

In the factory, the tank and plumbing is fitted to the chassis before the body, so no access issues. Once the vehicle is out of warranty, the customer is paying (up to £120 per hour) for the tank to be dropped or the body to be removed to access the tank. So the only cost to LR is the cost of warranty repairs which involve tank access, which I imagine are few and far between. I can't imagine that anyone has actually decided not to buy a Defender because of the poor access to the tank, so it has cost nothing in sales.

In the "good old days" the design team would have done it on the basis that it was "the right thing to do", whcih of course it is, but those days sadly are long gone.

I have to say that this is without doubt the neatest and most professional-looking access-hole modification I have yet seen, and a link to the marine fitting would be appreciated.

(I suspect also that I have over analysed this somewhat, I can only attribute this behaviour to the onset of cabin fever as a result of prolonged solitary confinement).


I might consider doing this as well. Details appreciated.
Post #823611 6th Apr 2020 7:34am
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LandymanStefan



Member Since: 30 Aug 2017
Location: Surrey
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England 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Edit: I've made a how to https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic71836.html

Heres the original youtube video i got the details from myself
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Adammacky



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Changed my front end...

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Svx grill for sale if anyone's interested Thumbs Up
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GREENI



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You sir, have my utter respect. Bow down
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LandymanStefan



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England 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Much much better
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keith



Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
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Whilst trim and carpets were up, It’s about time I installed rear view camera. Permanent live so on when driving. I didn’t like the centre dash position so top corner is outa the way without impeding forward view.
Stacey007 did a great install https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic46246...iew+camera
and I bought the same camera as him but didn’t like the No. plate position so used the rear washer hole top centre. Iv never used the rear wiper or washer anyway so a great place with exceptional view. Power was taken from behind corner speaker.



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