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| David T Member Since: 01 Sep 2016 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 190   
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Would'nt it make more sense to further develop bio-diesel?
www.greenfuels.co.uk state that their bio diesel emits 85% less CO2 than fossil. |
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26th Jul 2017 3:30pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Of course they say that. All companies who produce bio-diesel would say that. But in effect, bio-diesel is pretty horrible stuff for a diesel car engine. How do I know?  
And don't forget, Puma engines (surely the 2.4) are certified for not higher blend than B5. So further developing bio-diesel to B10 and higher is probably not so good an idea. We are spoiled here in Switzerland, all diesel at Swiss pumps remains B0. I think we are the only country in Europe that has never approved bio-diesel for standard road use. (Except for certain public transport trucks, etc. which are designed to run on B100). Hope the smart Swiss will never change and keep banning it, much better for the engine. 
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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26th Jul 2017 5:55pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
big is problem is modem engine is fuel system
as then diesel first had the idea for he new engine he run it on nut oil 
but saying that had job at ComAp system work with bi gen using new scania engine running on bi diesel for tesco |
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26th Jul 2017 6:46pm |
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| JJ Member Since: 18 May 2009 Location: Winchester Posts: 932 
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Lack of infrastructure for re-fuelling is a bit of a red herring. The infrastructure will be diversified to your own front door as pretty much everyone has electricity and why would you want to plug in to a lamp post when you can plug in at home or work?
There will of course be a massive shift in jobs from the oil sector to electricians and electrical infrastructure. It won't be perfect but then neither is the ice. HR064 Hampshire and Berkshire 4x4 Response |
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26th Jul 2017 10:22pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1762 
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If everyone tried to recharge electric cars now, the national grid would probably burn to the ground!
Most houses have an 80A feeder, but the system is only built for around 20-30% demand from each household for any length of time, with brief peaks above that. Assuming 2 cars and fast chargers, that's another 40A of load per household at least, for several hours a night. |
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26th Jul 2017 10:41pm |
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| JJ Member Since: 18 May 2009 Location: Winchester Posts: 932
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Good time to be an electrician then  HR064 Hampshire and Berkshire 4x4 Response |
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27th Jul 2017 1:27pm |
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| VeeTee Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1512 
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27th Jul 2017 3:42pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4636 
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Will the military have to have electric powered vehicles? How many batteries would it take to power a moderate sized tank?
Imagine Special Forces working behind the lines having to return to base to recharge their vehicle while the enemy simply refuel from jerry cans..... 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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1st Aug 2017 9:54am |
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| Sockpuppet Member Since: 17 Sep 2011 Location: Leicester Posts: 479
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To make it effective for that battery power would have to be as energy dense and light as Diesel/AvGas. When this happens lots will change.
In that was ever achieved it would make a great power source for a tank. It not idling means it would be silent, it would be quieter when running and power for the systems on board is from the main battery bank. Given the modular nature of the power packs for tanks in theory a drop in replacement could be engineered so you could run it on either carbon based fuel or electric as a mid life upgrade. Of course this is a long way off. |
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1st Aug 2017 10:35am |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4636
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 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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1st Aug 2017 10:44am |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5108  
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Just read that British gas are increasing their electricity charges by 12.5% so in the next few days all suppliers will follow suit ….. increases like that will certainly encourage folks to go electric.
 For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..
http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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1st Aug 2017 3:19pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17322 
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Just wait until the most expensive project of any type ever undertaken my mankind, the new Hinckley Point Power Station, comes on line (if it ever does come on line, that is). It will apparently be generating the most expensive electricity ever generated anywhere in the world, costing more even that offshore wind farms (curently the most expensive source of electricity). I bet that causes a massive hike in bills for customers, and profits for some foreign Johnnies!
All of these supposedly green and "planet saving" measures fail to address the basic problem, namely the fact that there are far too many humans on the planet. |
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1st Aug 2017 3:53pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5108
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Don't worry with Kim Jong-Un getting ready to nuke us all and Trump with his finger hovering over the button that over population problem might soon go away For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..
http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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1st Aug 2017 4:11pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17322
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^^ Every cloud has a silver lining, eh?
I also wonder how all the countries which rely almost totally on fossil fuel revenues will take the change in fortunes if and when the world ceases to run on oil. Will we see these countries destoying wind farms and nuclear power plants to redress the balance, I wonder. Maybe "accidentally" letting a supertanker drift through an offshore wind farm? (Following the mention of Rudolf Diesel a few posts above, let us also not forget that it was actually two British engineers, namely Herbert Ackroyd Stuart and Charles Richard Binney, who really invented the first viable compression ignition engine. Strictly speaking the things in our Defenders should be known as Stuart-Binney engines, not Diesel engines). |
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2nd Aug 2017 1:45pm |
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