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Rashers



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I think Jeremy (Corbyn, not Vine) is short of a few shadow cabinet members and allies at the moment so I think Ms Abbott has been seen as a bum on what would be a vacant seat.

She seems to have had a really bad week and as they say, a week is a long time in politics.

Aside from Ms Abbott, I have often smiled at Cabinets of all flavour parties where a member of parliament is suddenly got the job of...... Northern Ireland Secretary, Environment Minister, Education Minister or whatever and you wonder whether they actually know anything about their portfolio?

I have to say I smiled when I saw that George Osbourne has been kicked out of the job of Chancellor, quit politics and has become an editor of the Evening Standard. What a kick in the teeth for all journalists, where jobs have been haemorrhaging for years and who are still just about holding on to their jobs in newspapers and TV. Having been to University and were trying to work their way to a big gig as an Editor. Sorry Chaps and Chapesses, your wasting your time. You just need to have got lucky in Politics and get the job because you are famous rather than skilled.

Just remember that to become a Member of Parliament actually requires no skill, qualifications or experience. You just need thick skin, the inability to answer a question and a very poor memory as everything you promise before you get elected will go straight into the recycle bin once you get in the House.

I don't have a lot of respect for Politicians of any party - sorry.
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The only important thing with politics is to go and vote. The rest of it is entirely subjective and personal. If you don't vote, you can't moan. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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Rashers



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Good post lambert.the.farmer.

Can I suggest to all who find it too much bother to vote to get a postal vote. I got one when I worked away. Now my wife and parents do postal voting. It saves having to turn out after work (or just turn out in my parents case as they are retired).

I have skimmed through the Norfolk results. 54% turnout was the highest (and unusual) of any Division. Most were in their 20's. That's one in five voters. Pretty pathetic. The lowest was 19%. Hardly worth the poling station staff turning up.

As lambert.the.farmer says. Don't vote, then don't moan.

I vote and I will keep moaning Thumbs Up
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Slideywindows



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Millions of people have died fighting to get, or retain the right to vote, and in some countries they still are.


Their struggle means my right to vote is a duty to vote. Period.

As for Diane Abbott. Oh dear....... Thud
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Registered for my postal vote also, but for the first time in my life, I dont really want to vote for any of them. Its no wonder so many dont bother these days, but as said before, I feel its my duty to cast my vote.
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mk1collector



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But you don't even live here Rolling Eyes Ray
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Rolling Eyes I am still British you know. French people living in the UK Still Vote for their French president.

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mk1collector



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Yes and it's just as ridiculous Ray
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Your opinion
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It just seems very odd and wrong to me to have any say on the running of a country one doesn't live in. I wouldn't consider it right for myself to help select a country's government if I didn't live there as it doesn't affect me it only affects the residents. Ray
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Riverboy



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You'll be pleased to learn that we lose the right to vote after 15 years so this will be my last time unless I ever moved back. That doesn't mean we then gain the right to vote in France, we don't. We can vote in local French elections just not national. Personally I think we should be able to vote in the country we live and pay tax in, but it doesn't work that way unless you become a citizen which is not some thing I would choose to do. I love France, its a great country, I have a far nicer lifestyle here, but I don't want to be French, I'm British and Irish. Please don't say that I should live in Britain or Ireland then because that's just daft and I'll never accept or agree with that nationalistic way of thinking.
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I agree that if you live and pay tax in any country then you should be allowed a vote there, I just don't think people should be allowed a vote in countries in which they don't live. As for living in countries other than where you were born that's up to the individual and the governments policy in the country they wish to live it doesn't bother me at all. Ray
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Thumbs Up glad to hear it. Unfortunately there are many who would like to see an end to freedom of movement. We have them here in France as well as you will have seen of late.
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