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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897   
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I'm really glad I'm old.
I won't live to see what the World's coming to.   |
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29th Jan 2017 8:44pm |
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| Doc P Member Since: 03 Apr 2016 Location: Midlands Posts: 565  
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29th Jan 2017 9:36pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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Now please forgive me if I am showing my medical ignorance. I thought the majority of pregnancy occurs in a womb with about 1% ectopic pregnancies outside the womb. Now I would have thought that having a set of ovaries, womb, vagina etc was a prerequisite of getting pregnant and were also the definition of womanhood? Now how can an intersex man or trans man get pregnant? Now I can imagine a woman gets pregnant and be wishing to be transgender to a man but how does stop her being a mother? Now is this a case of PC being BS Now I have just googled men getting pregnant and found this Not exactly my normal scientific source of knowledge! Brendan |
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29th Jan 2017 11:10pm |
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| London 52 Member Since: 21 Oct 2014 Location: Lincoln Posts: 312 
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I know Brendan, absolute madness,,,, The problem is, what's next!!!!
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29th Jan 2017 11:16pm |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1283
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What's next?
I can tell you what won't be next, and that will be the BBC refusing to stereotype " middle aged, middle class, grey haired old men." Apparently they are the problem in so many areas - FIFA, Parliament, the workplace, or just walking down the street too slowly! Perhaps the PC brigade could think of a long-winded description that doesn't make this group feel like an unwanted and despised minority? But somehow I doubt it..... |
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30th Jan 2017 11:38am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20418
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Without trying to sound biased which is unavoidable and I'm certainly not against women in any way what so ever.
However, I do notice that they seem some of the biggest political perpetrators of kicking up trouble. Especially number one around the 18 to 30 yr old group, closely followed by 30 - 50 year olds. Over that not so much at all. That coupled with the quest of obtaining high status and this obsession with homosexuality and all this trans stuff and all that business. (Amongst other things..) Seems about the only thing the Labour party stands for too..... I'll get me coat.. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R 🇬🇧ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó ´ó ¿ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸â›½ï¸ðŸ›¢ï¸âš™ï¸ðŸ§°ðŸ’ª |
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30th Jan 2017 11:51am |
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| Farmerben Member Since: 16 Jan 2017 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 605 
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Playing devil's advocate for a minute and not wanting to kick the hornets' nest, the people who tend to think these things don't matter tend to be the people who aren't on the receiving end of discrimination.
Maybe I'm just being a soft millennial. https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews |
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30th Jan 2017 1:55pm |
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| Froglaise Member Since: 24 Sep 2016 Location: left forum Posts: 212 |
^^^^
In the context of the conversation, are you therefore suggesting that calling a pregnant woman a mother is in fact discrimination? |
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30th Jan 2017 2:09pm |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897
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I understood that a mother was a pregnant woman who'd stopped being pregnant.
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30th Jan 2017 2:20pm |
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| Farmerben Member Since: 16 Jan 2017 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 605
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No.
“A large majority of people that have been pregnant or have given birth identify as women. We can include intersex men and transmen who may get pregnant by saying ‘pregnant people’ instead of ‘expectant mothers’”. This refers to female to male transgender individuals who may have undergone some level of gender reassignment surgery yet are still able to have children. Seriously, my immediate family has been on the receiving end of some pretty hideous abuse - physical and verbal - from other family members. Nothing good comes from making fun of others just for being different when a lot of the time there is nothing they would like more than to be "normal". Sorry to come across as the thought police but if anyone else has had a similar experience, you'll know where I'm coming from. Only came on this forum to talk about Land Rovers! Wasn't expecting it to get all Jeremy Vine in here! https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews |
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30th Jan 2017 2:22pm |
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| Froglaise Member Since: 24 Sep 2016 Location: left forum Posts: 212 |
So my wife, being pregnant now, is no longer a mother to our 4yr old daughter? That's nice... |
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30th Jan 2017 2:22pm |
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| Froglaise Member Since: 24 Sep 2016 Location: left forum Posts: 212 |
So then, you have a specific example of someone using the term "expectant mothers" as a form of abuse/mockery? |
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30th Jan 2017 2:25pm |
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| Farmerben Member Since: 16 Jan 2017 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 605
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I was actually initially responding to custom90steve's post on the more general subject of "female troublemakers" and the causes they argue against.
If you were a doctor and this guy jumped up on the bed for a 12 week scan, you'd call him an "expectant mother"? Click image to enlarge And it isn't talking about it being abusive/mocking but helps avoid embarrassment all round. This isn't a new enforceable law, this is guidance. https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews |
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30th Jan 2017 2:42pm |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897
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I was thinking of the same child. |
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30th Jan 2017 2:45pm |
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