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Eduardo



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Just to be aware: LTB00177
Mine was already had this problem 4 month ago....

Technical Service Bulletin
No.LTB00177
09 October 2008

Subject/Concern: Brake Vacuum Pump Seal Oil Leak

Models:
Defender (LD) 2.4L Diesel Only
2.4L Diesel Only VIN-range: 7A732615 Onwards


Markets: All

Section: 206-07

Summary:
Oil leaking from the brake vacuum pump front oil seal.

Cause: Dirt ingress into the pump pulley seal resulting in damage to the lip and subsequent oil leakage (the new brake vacuum pump has a secondary dirt lip seal). Suggested Customer Concern Code - R31.

Action: Should a customer express concern, install a new brake vacuum pump (refer to Global Technical Reference GTR Workshop Manual, section 206-07 (70.15.19)).


Parts Required:
Description Part Number Quantity
Brake vacuum pump LR012183 1
Gasket LR004381 1

Labour Time:
Operation Description Operation No. Time
Install a new brake vacuum pump 70.15.19 0.7 hours

Repair/Claim Coding:
Causal Part: LR012183
ACES Condition Code: 42
Defect Code: Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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The Boy



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This happend to mine two days after getting back from the Italian Alps. Drop nearly half the oil in 2 miles.
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Verdone



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Happened to me aswell, got it towed and they installed a new one but dont know if its the improved one Laughing

Ah well atm its still going good Cool

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Eduardo



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I just ask my dealer if they put the modified one or not.
No answer yet.... Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Post #4301 23rd Oct 2008 6:51pm
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Fontuin



Member Since: 11 Sep 2008
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2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Zambezi Silver
In South Africa most if not all Puma TDCi Defenders have had this problem due to the hot dusty conditions as far as I understand. Most have been replaced with the old unit, I think the new unit was only released this month Question , mine has the old unit so I expect it will start leaking and need replacement soon(with the new unit this time Mr. Green ), my old one started leaking at about 16 000km and was replaced at 20 000km.
Post #4314 25th Oct 2008 9:33am
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Eduardo



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Thanks Fontuin

Just I receive the answer from the dealer: Was replaced for the old one. New one was on the market from Sept.
So, we are waiting to have the same trouble again Sad Sad

Cheers! Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Post #4321 26th Oct 2008 1:29am
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Fatboy Slim



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This makes me b Censored y mad................Transits have suffered from this problem long before Ford put the engine in the Defender and they still havn't sorted it.............Sorry I think that is unacceptable......hope you chaps don't have probs Confused
Post #4327 26th Oct 2008 7:17pm
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Fontuin



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2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Zambezi Silver
Fatboy Slim wrote:
Transits have suffered from this problem long before Ford put the engine in the Defender and they still havn't sorted it.....


I was wondering about whether this was the case, the problem with the Transit was/is probably not as severe because it would not be used in hot dusty condtions to the same extent that Defenders are (we don't even have transits here in SA).

Fatboy Slim wrote:
......hope you chaps don't have probs Confused


Not a question of if, it is a question of when, the old pump will start leaking at some stage in the conditions I use my vehicle in.
Post #4331 27th Oct 2008 6:46am
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AndrewS



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I'm on my 5th Big Cry Nothing to do with dust. In my opinion. Its the location of the pulley and the tension on the belt. The belt does not ride over the little pulley it actually goes round the pulley. If that makes sense Embarassed Causing it to be pulled down. They should fit and idler pulley next to the vac pulley to reduce the stress.

I had a new one (new type) replace 4-5 days before going to Morocco it failed within 2000 miles. I was not allowed to take a spare as they are in limited supply and Land Rover said that one has been allocated to my car already so tough. Luckily for me the support vehicle had 2 spares. Also Nick at Yeovil Land Rover was on stand buy to ship one out for me
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The Boy



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AndrewS wrote:
I'm on my 5th Big Cry Nothing to do with dust. In my opinion. Its the location of the pulley and the tension on the belt. The belt does not ride over the little pulley it actually goes round the pulley. If that makes sense Embarassed Causing it to be pulled down. They should fit and idler pulley next to the vac pulley to reduce the stress.

I had a new one (new type) replace 4-5 days before going to Morocco it failed within 2000 miles. I was not allowed to take a spare as they are in limited supply and Land Rover said that one has been allocated to my car already so tough. Luckily for me the support vehicle had 2 spares. Also Nick at Yeovil Land Rover was on stand buy to ship one out for me


I am thinking of (if I ever get mine back ) buying a spare for next years trip. Is it easy to fit?
Post #4473 4th Nov 2008 9:32am
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Verdone



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Mine just failed, engine is covered with spatters of oil again ffs Evil or Very Mad


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AndrewS



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[quote="The Boy"]
AndrewS wrote:
Is it easy to fit?


Yes Thumbs Up
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Verdone



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I got it back with no new vacuum pump Shocked , they cant get the new ones and they cant get the old ones anymore, so now i have to wait maybe more then a month Neutral

Anyone know whats going on????

U pay plenty of money, i dont care if it rains inside or all that but i do expect to it to be mechanically in a good state no??
Post #5266 4th Dec 2008 4:48pm
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Eduardo



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WHAT?

If I understand yours will be out of service for one month?
That's not good... Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Verdone



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No they gave it back since its not that severe yet, since ive had the problem once i checked regurly and saw it was beginning to leak again Big Cry

So i took it in to the dealers and after a week i got it back with done what i asked except the vaccum pump since all the old ones r recalled and their are no new ones!!!????!!!!

I wonder if anyone can check that cause i hate driving with oil spilling around Big Cry

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