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| CFB Member Since: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire Posts: 803  
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No its definitely a glitch with the Nanocom, it refuses to change the setting that I need for some reason (unless I am doing the procedure incorrectly), all other settings seem to change fine except this one which I didn't actually change in the first place
The air suspension can be re-inflated with the Nanocom, however it is now stuck in 'Transport Mode' which means it fully deflates on ignition off. I can get to the setting to disable this but it will not write this back to the ECU so keeps defaulting back to this point. Peter has tried to help but has now referred me directly to Nanocom in Italy who have not as yet responded  Andy |
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12th Jan 2011 4:51pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232 
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I know Nanocom have a few crucialy important things going on at the moment with its support structure amongst some other stuff so emails will not get answered probabally for few days or possibily even more im not exactly sure of the time scale. For the short term at least you are all on your own.
id hope things will resolve them self back to normal as soon as possibile. Pete |
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12th Jan 2011 9:19pm |
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| walpoleer Member Since: 03 Jan 2011 Location: Walpole st Andrew Posts: 7 
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that's worrying...did you access the suspension setup to alter it or did it just fault on a read only. guess what I am asking is it safe even to look at the suspension setting or avoid till we find a fix. just starting out and getting it all wrong..so I'am told, and have a disco 2 but thats not an option as it was the wife choice. and she has never known herself to be wrong. |
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12th Jan 2011 10:10pm |
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| CFB Member Since: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire Posts: 803
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I am thoroughly
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I have a feeling that the BCU has somehow become corrupt, I have the yellow SLS warning light on the dash and the only way I can raise the suspension is via the Nanocom but as soon as I try and save the setting or I switch off it drops back to the floor so is undriveable. Reading the codes was fine, as soon as I tried to alter and save new paramters was when it screwed up. I'm now faced with a trip to the dealer to try and sort it via Test Book, god knows what that will cost me, the whole point of getting this gizmo was to avoid expensive dealer trips. Andy |
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12th Jan 2011 10:18pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035 
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Have you tried the obvious...resetting the unit (i read in the guide about that) rebuilding the firmware off the site..again instructions there.
Other options: Ring them Anyone else with a unit locally...to try theirs Take it to an independent plug it in should cost £30 ish The RAC's diagnostics whilst not as good...might help All before a dealer Mike |
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12th Jan 2011 10:34pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232
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Suspention settings are not inside the BCU, they are in the SLABS / Self Levelling Anti-lock Braking System unit.
see link https://blackbox-solutions.com/shop/help/SM016.html Pete |
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12th Jan 2011 10:40pm |
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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686 |
Don't know if you have done this:
The update files for the evolution can only be accessed through the Nanocom Restricted area. This file may not be preloaded onto your nanocom. Could be worthwhile downloading and installing  |
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13th Jan 2011 12:03am |
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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686 |
When you download an upgrade file, explore the zip file and double click the README file you will get these instructions: To install this upgrade in the NANOCOM Evolution: 1)Remove the SD CARD from the slot and connect the NANOCOM to the computer. 2)You will see the Nanocom between the disk unit of the computer as a flash memory device called NC_FIRMWARE. 3)Copy the file .app(or .mex) (that you downloaded from the site, and extracted from the .zip format) and paste it the NC_FIRMWARE memory. 4)the operative system ask you if you want to overwrite it to the file already present in the unit. 5)click "Yes" to overwrite. 6)Wait until the file is completely copied in the memory. 7)Disconnect the NANOCOM. It is now updated and ready to be used. NOTE: if you have more file to upgrade, you can do it connecting the Nanocom only one time, but the files must be copied and overwrite one by one. HTH |
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13th Jan 2011 12:54am |
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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686 |
DIAGNOSTIC FUNCTIONS OF THE ABS-SLS SLABS (DiscoveryII)
All the diagnostic functions have to be performed with the Ignition turned on to the second step and the engine may be running or stopped. In many vehicles the communication with this module can be noisy and this will not allow the Nanocom to communicate with this module when the engine is running. It is possible to perform the diagnostic function also with the engine stopped, moving the wheel by hand; the only parameters that results unreadable are the engine speed and the engine torque. This problem can be in some case fixed by checking the ecu’s ground connection and the OBD socket’s ground connection. If the ground is well connected and the problem is still present we suggest to ask us the hardware adaptor that improves the noise reduction of the Nanocom OBD port. FAULTS FUNCTIONS The SLABS ecu has the READ FAULTS and CLEAR FAULTS to read and clear the fault codes. We don’t give any faults explanation or suggestions, in order to avoid giving the user wrong information, we in fact think that the faults codes must be collocated in the context of the car which they come from. SETTINGS FUNCTIONS Test status ENABLED-DISABLED – This setting is only an indication to inform that the ecu has been tested Transport mode ENABLED-DISABLED – This setting enables or disables the transport mode (see workshop manual) ECU calibrated YES – This setting is only an indication to inform that the ecu has been calibrated Suspension type AIR-COIL Left stored height – Reference value of the standard height of the left air suspension Right stored height – Reference value of the standard height of the right air suspension INPUTS FUNCTIONS The VABCO ecu has the READ ABS-SLS INPUT functions to read dynamically the parameters. The parametesr can be analogue-numeric or digital-ON/OFF. Front right sens(V) – Front left sens(V) – Rear right sens(V) – Front left sens(V) – These voltages must be between 2.2V and 2.4V Front right wheel speed(Km/h) - Front left wheel speed(Km/h) – Rear right wheel speed(Km/h) – Rear left wheel speed(Km/h) – These speed values must be 1.7-1.8Kmh when the car is stopped and increase when the speed is higher. Front right outlet valve(V) – Front left outlet valve(V) – Rear right outlet valve(V) – Rear left outlet valve(V) – Front right inlet valve(V) – Front left inlet valve(V) – Rear right inlet valve(V) – Rear left inlet valve(V) These voltage must be 0V with valves off and 12V with valve on (the valves are active for short times only during the modulation). Engine speed(rpm)- Engine torque(N/m)- Throttle position(%) Shuttle switch(V)- The modulator has 2 valves that change theyr state when the two cylinder master pump of the brake pedal is pressed. The two valves are connected to a resistor net composed by 3 resistor. The opening of one or The modulator has 2 valves that change their state when the two cylinder master pump of the brake pedal is pressed. The two valves are connected to a resistor net composed of 3 resistors. The opening of one or both valves changes the resistance of the net. When both valves are open, the current goes through all the 3 resistors; when one of the two switches is closed, one of the 3 resistors is excluded by the net, and when both valves are closed only one resistor is connected. This current is read by the SLABS to detect the activity of the master cylinder and to check the circuit integrity. The values that the shuttle switch should have are: 255-160 Open circuit (possible fault) 130-180 Pedal released (open switch) 61-129 Transition (only one switch is closed) 30-60 Pedal fully pressed (both switches are closed) 0-29 Short to ground (possible fault) Note: these values are only indicative, so if your shuttle gives values different from the table, we suggest to evaluate carefully how the shuttle switches work before considering it faulty. Brake light relay(V)-Pump relay(V)-Ignition supply(V)-Valve supply(V)- Pump monitor(V) Ground reference(V) – This value must be near to 0V it should not be more than +/-1V Left sensor value – Right sensor value These values must increase with the increasing if the car’s height. Normally they must be between 150 and 180 when the car is in the standard height. Left sensor supply(V) – Right sensor supply(V) These value must be near to 5V Left valve(V)-Right valve(V)-Exhaust valve(V)-Compressor relay(V) Neutral switch CLOSE-OPEN –HDC switch CLOSE-OPEN – Low range switch CLOSE-OPEN –Reverse switch CLOSE-OPEN –Diff lock switch CLOSE-OPEN –Any door switch CLOSE-OPEN –Plip signal(not used) OUTPUTS TESTS These functions activate the relative outputs for a few seconds allowing you to check them. Front right inlet valve Front right outlet valve Front left inlet valve Front left outlet valve Rear right inlet valve Rear right outlet valve Rear left inlet valve Rear left outlet valve Pump relay Valve relay SLS left valve SLS right valve SLS exhaust valve SLS compressor Brake warning LED- HDC warning LED-T.C. lamp-Speedo- HDC Info LED- HDC fault LED- SLS lamp- Offroad lamp- HDC brake lamp- SLS Buzzer UTILITY FUNCTIONS POWER BLEED This function allows to perform the oil bleeding of the main circuit. The function activates the pump for a few seconds, and you must repeat the function until the oil reaches the brake. The same work can be done by pushing the brake pedal. MODULATOR BLEED This function allows to perform the oil bleeding of the modulator circuit. The function must be performed with the pipes closed, pushing the pedal with the maximum strength during the function. Once the function is performed, release the pedal and repeat the function until the pedal stroke is normal. FRONT RIGHT TEST - FRONT LEFT TEST - REAR RIGHT TEST - REAR LEFT TEST This function activates the modulation of the brake on the desired wheel. During the function if you turn the wheel by hand, you can see that it is blocked several times for few seconds. RAISE LEFT - RAISE RIGHT - LOWER LEFT - LOWER RIGHT This function allows to set the car heights increasing and decreasing it in both sides separately, and so it also tests the air suspension. STORE HEIGHTS This function allows to store as standard height the height currently set. HOW TO SET AND CALIBRATE THE AIR SUSPENSIONS If you need to replace a sensor or you want to modify the suspension heights, you have to follow the following procedure: 1 Set the car height with the RAISE LOWER functions 2 Verify with the SLS INPUT function that the values of the sensors are consistent 3 Perform the STORE HEIGHTS function once the height is set 4 Turn off the ignition for 60 seconds as Nanocom ask 5 Verify with the READ SETTING function that the stored height values correspond or are very closed to the values read with the SLS INPUT inputs HOW TO DISABLE THE SLS MANAGEMENT If the air suspensions are replaced with coil you need to disable the SLS management 1 Perform the READ SETTING function 2 Modify the suspension type from AIR to COIL 3 Write the modified values with the WRITE SETTING function 4 Turn off the ignition for 60 seconds. |
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13th Jan 2011 1:14am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035
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Forgot to add...ignoring updating the firmware as brian and i suggest
What are you doing with the ignition and have you adequate power. I know that on other models you must have good power from the battery to use the diagnositcs and for somethings it ignition on and for others ignition off - sometimes you then have to cycle through on and off. Mike |
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13th Jan 2011 7:46am |
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| CFB Member Since: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire Posts: 803
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Thanks all
Brian, thanks i have those instructions from the Nanocom site
Downloaded the Firmware 2.04 but when unzipped it is just a .exe file that i can't explore further, there is no README notes etc, I don't think copying this into the device will work as it doesn't replace any existing file that I can see Power to the unit seems fine as other functions are working Baffled.com Andy |
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13th Jan 2011 7:56am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035
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The .exe is for a different version to upgrade the kernal files i recall. Mike |
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13th Jan 2011 7:59am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035
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3)Open the NANOCOM box removing the screws on the bottom. Remove the jumpers installed in the pin 3 and 4 of
the 6 pole strip connector J6. Launch the program “KernelManager.exe” that you can download from the site within the relative kernel upgrade. Connect the USB cable and wait until the program turns from “device not attached” to “device attached”. Click one the button of the program “KernelManager.exe” relative to the kernel upgrade you need to do, and wait that the unit is fully programmed. Install the jumper in the pin3 and 4 of the J6 connector(as it was before).Disconnect the USB, the unit is upgraded and ready Mike |
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13th Jan 2011 8:00am |
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| CFB Member Since: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire Posts: 803
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I've managed to get it driveable again by changing it from AIR to COIL mode, not ideal but at least it is keeping the air inflated. For whatever reason it just will not change the SLABS setting to Transport Mode DISABLED, think my only option is to get it on a dealer TestBook to reset this.
I'm not sure about this Kernel upgrade, don't want to screw the unit up, is there not a simpler way of upgrading the Firmware on these units??? Andy |
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13th Jan 2011 9:55am |
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