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Willie



Member Since: 08 Oct 2009
Location: Stockton
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Rimini Red
Engine Management Light
Engine Management Light came on this morning as I went out. As I was near the LR dealer I stopped off and ask what the problem was likely to be. He thought it might be an exhaust sensor? ~ £300 repair, OUCH! He suggested I book it in for health check (its getting new side steps fitted at same time) and said I could run the car provided I didn't drive too fast.

Any ideas what it might be?

Willie

PS warranty ran out September 2010 - typical Defender Virgin
Post #49546 23rd Dec 2010 2:23pm
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Lorryman100



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Sometimes the MIL light resets after 3 driving cycles. If not you will need to have the fault code recovered from the ecu to tell you what caused the engine light to come on. Do you know anyone with a OBDII fault code reader? As your landy is out of warranty maybe a scangaugeII, nanocom evolution, blackbox FCR or hawkeye would be a good purchase as they all read and clear faults stored in the ecu. Dgardel has on here a link to download the faultcodes

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic3432.h...ault+codes

I have the scangaugeII and santa is bringing me the nanocom unit. The scangauge is mounted in the car permanently where as the nanocom unit is for more specialised use.

http://www.scangauge2.co.uk/

http://web.nanocom.it/default_i.cfm



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Post #49549 23rd Dec 2010 2:43pm
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Ninetenths



Member Since: 26 Mar 2009
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2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Try an Italian tune. Pimped black '07 Puma
Equally Pimped Black Pick up Truck

Rollin deep
Post #49557 23rd Dec 2010 4:03pm
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Willie



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Location: Stockton
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Rimini Red
It would seem Santa brought me a present today and turned out the EML as Lorryman100 suggested potentially saving me £300. Should I still get the LR dealer to check it out or should I just put it down to the very cold weather.

Willie Defender Virgin
Post #49740 25th Dec 2010 2:39pm
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Lorryman100



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the dealer will charge you for plugging in the diagnostic tool to read the code. The cost depend's on the dealers hourly rate. I would recommend as your out of warranty the scangauge 2 as you can read and reset fault's potentially paying for itself the first time it is used to check and reset the fault!
Post #49742 25th Dec 2010 3:01pm
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WelshGas



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Wales 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Fully agree with Lorryman100. Excellent piece of kit. Has many other uses as well. Calculating MPG, once set up, Outside Air Temp, when on the move, Battery Voltage, Water Temp and many others. Worth every penny, and as Lorryman100 says, just 1 trip to the dealers to run a diagnostic pays for itself. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
Post #49798 26th Dec 2010 10:29am
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fekete



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
Just ordered a scangauge 2 has my MIL light as came on .....still running fine though ? see what the scangauge finds when it turns up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY

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Post #49911 27th Dec 2010 6:36pm
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fekete



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
Just received the scangauge 2 plugged it in and cleared the codes....Mil light has gone out Very Happy
P1103 Mass air flow sensor in range but higher than expected. ? NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #50321 30th Dec 2010 4:34pm
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Zinke



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
fekete wrote:
Just received the scangauge 2 plugged it in and cleared the codes....Mil light has gone out Very Happy
P1103 Mass air flow sensor in range but higher than expected. ?


EGR problem that sounds like. Have you fitted a blanking plate? If not i would say the valve is stuck.

Pete.
Post #50323 30th Dec 2010 4:41pm
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fekete



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
Yes had the blank on for a good six months i think its the 18m one.....i've run it all day and the light has stayed off fingers crossed NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #50339 30th Dec 2010 5:16pm
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Zinke



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Well now you can reset it and know what it is then its not a problem! Wink

Just keep a eye on it but i would say its the EGR blank that caused it.

Pete.
Post #50343 30th Dec 2010 5:23pm
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fekete



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
Thanks Pete, I'll keep a eye on it see if it happens again...could it be that the blank hole has got sutted up ? NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #50346 30th Dec 2010 5:31pm
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BIGFOG



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Fekete, took my 12mm blank out today after a few thousand miles of use and replaced with original gasket as I have the BAS EGR Shut map update, suffice to say there was no sign of the hole being sooted up, could it be the sensor itself or more likely the EGR playing up, mine always seems to run smoother after a proper long run of a few hundred miles?
Post #50376 30th Dec 2010 7:16pm
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fekete



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
Hi BIGFOG Thanks for that it was just a thought.....the light went on after a continues 250 mile run ? NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #50383 30th Dec 2010 8:00pm
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BIGFOG



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Hmm, nowt stranger than an EGR - damn the things and damn the silly brain of a Puma for being so damn fussy!! Evil or Very Mad
Post #50388 30th Dec 2010 8:24pm
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