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dgardel



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dm_td5 wrote:
dgardel: How in hell do you keep the Defender THAT clean? Do you drive into a canal every week to wash it?


Hemmm

photos taken from www.entreq.de.

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dg, do you have these parts in your kit? Apparently you need them for a landrover installation. I know that you know what you're doing, but this has just been highlighted to me that its extra from the kit itself and needs buying.

Hose - Part/No 33894A
T Piece for fuel connection - Part/No 66944A
Post #48131 10th Dec 2010 5:36pm
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dgardel wrote:
dm_td5 wrote:
dgardel: How in hell do you keep the Defender THAT clean? Do you drive into a canal every week to wash it?


Hemmm

photos taken from www.entreq.de.

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Post #48157 10th Dec 2010 8:32pm
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dgardel



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BigMike wrote:
dg, do you have these parts in your kit? Apparently you need them for a landrover installation. I know that you know what you're doing, but this has just been highlighted to me that its extra from the kit itself and needs buying.

Hose - Part/No 33894A
T Piece for fuel connection - Part/No 66944A


I use the "T" for the fuel line and the thermostatic valve 19873A:

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because have a better efficiency (no losses) when the heater is switched off than the "in-line solution (my first idea):

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The connections for the Puma is:



Here same draws

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On the Defender, I chosen to install the heater using the e-ntreq solution

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Last, 7 days Timer also:

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dgardel



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You need the standard Webasto THERMO TOP C general installation kit AND the back valve (must buy separately, ca 30,00€).

In total my costs was (installation by me!!!)

Webasto main unit (new) 180,00€ (by friend)
Standard installation kit (complete o wiring harness, water pipes, exhaust and more) 135,00€ (ebay)
7 Day Timer 85,00€ (eBay)
entreq plate and back valve 180,00€

Total = 580,00€, NOT BAD!!!!! Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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cobs



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dgardel - is the non return valve a Webasto product or Entreq?
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Teeing into the fuel line won't work as the solenoid pump will not have enough suction to pull the fuel up the landrover fuel pipe. Webasto and Eberspacher fuel pumps need to use the supplied suction pipe which is approx 2mm Id bore. Been there done that and learnt the hard way Rolling with laughter easiest option is a separate tank it only needs to be a few litres as they use next to no fuel.
Post #48241 11th Dec 2010 11:42pm
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dgardel



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cobs wrote:
dgardel - is the non return valve a Webasto product or Entreq?


Webasto P/N 12780A Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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dgardel



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Sonic3d wrote:
............

Been there done that and learnt the hard way Rolling with laughter easiest option is a separate tank it only needs to be a few litres as they use next to no fuel.

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Is an option on mine mind............thinking about the place on the truck Thumbs Up

Otherwise I need to remove the fuel tank for fit the Webasto suction pipe.......... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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Webasto comes as standard equipment here in Norway. Works great! I have a video on youtube of my puma with webasto heather. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9D5btyUS2o
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dgardel



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Finnskogingen wrote:
Webasto comes as standard equipment here in Norway. Works great! I have a video on youtube of my puma with webasto heather. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9D5btyUS2o


Could you make same photos especially for the burner position (seems on the right, on the internal part of the Defender frame) and where the webasto water pipes are connected (closer the cabin heater valve? [closer to the brake servo]).

And a photos where the small pipes (the pipe that came from the car radiator) is connected to the engine expansion tank.

Thank you

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Sonic3d wrote:
Teeing into the fuel line won't work as the solenoid pump will not have enough suction to pull the fuel up the landrover fuel pipe. Webasto and Eberspacher fuel pumps need to use the supplied suction pipe which is approx 2mm Id bore. Been there done that and learnt the hard way Rolling with laughter easiest option is a separate tank it only needs to be a few litres as they use next to no fuel.


Your installation is pretty cool I must say - but why didn't you just tap into the main fuel tank?
Post #48263 12th Dec 2010 11:04am
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Sonic3d



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Didn't want to drill the main tank and possibly cause problems when in the middle of nowhere Thumbs Up And it's easier for me to just knock up an alloy tank than drop the main tank to fit the Eberspacher pickup pipe.
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BigMike



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yeah that's a worry of mine too. Is the 2 mil pipe ok to cope with a feed from an auxilliary tank? I know your tank is in the load bay ie outside the vehicle, do you (or anyone else for that matter) have any ideas of where to put it in a 90 if the heater unit is under the bonnet? I dont want to put mine under the vehicle, too vulnerable for what I do.
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Sonic3d



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The 2mm pipe is fine, we tried it with 6mm and it wouldn't work. If I was going to fit one to a 90 I would make a tank to fit under the drivers wing top and hinge the plastic vent on top for the filler.
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