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excossack

Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
Location: North West
Posts: 5834

1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue

Thats why I am replacing the seals. I had to replace to door bottoms. 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock

2nd Dec 2015 9:55pm

miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1762

Easy job to do? I assume you bought repair channels and then welded them in?

3rd Dec 2015 12:28am

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

dorsetsmith wrote:
your missing these

Thanks for that part number, as so many I will be missing some of these too...
But, those little simple small foam blocks from various resellers cost from 7 to 9£ each.

Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw

3rd Dec 2015 5:29am

Lambley

Member Since: 20 Apr 2013
Location: Mid Devon
Posts: 1435

Fitting the new type seals to a Td5 is easy, I've fitted them to mine and they give a much better seal. Remove the door card, drill out the rivets, enlarge the rivet holes my 1mm, drill a couple of extra holes for the side bits, Hoover the rivets etc from inside the door, clip new ones into place.

3rd Dec 2015 5:52am

excossack

Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
Location: North West
Posts: 5834

Yeah not a bad job to replaced the bottom sections. I got one per door and then painted each one up before hand.
Between the frame and door skin, I used roofing sealant to create a gasket.
When all done and painted I used cavity wax in the box section.

Given I need 4 of those foam pads for the front doors, I might as well just replace the newly fitted door seals with Puma ones and do away with the need for £18 of pads per door!

And this time, I will try not to put a snapped drill bit into my finger, under the skin and out the other side! 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock

3rd Dec 2015 8:10am

Romadog

Member Since: 07 Jul 2011
Location: Powys
Posts: 1749

So the new Puma seals don't fit early welded frame doors??

3rd Dec 2015 7:10pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

ericvv wrote:
dorsetsmith wrote:
your missing these

Thanks for that part number, as so many I will be missing some of these too...
But, those little simple small foam blocks from various resellers cost from 7 to 9£ each.
Eric

not in lest you driver TD5

3rd Dec 2015 7:59pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

^^ I think those little Td5 foam blocks are probably still the same ones as installed on early Puma bottom door seals, including on my model year 2009.
If someone knows better and maybe have a different part number for these foam blocks on a pre-2012 Puma (2012 is the model year that the new type door seals were introduced), I would be interested to hear that.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw

3rd Dec 2015 8:24pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

3rd Dec 2015 8:27pm

excossack

Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
Location: North West
Posts: 5834

Looking at the link to the blog posted earlier, looks like the door changed shape. They went from almost a 90 degree joint for the bottom frame and side frame to a more curved frame (at least on the front doors) 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock

3rd Dec 2015 9:41pm

driver9

Member Since: 15 Oct 2012
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 111

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Foam block 85p from a LR dealer and free delivery.

http://www.shop4landrover.co.uk/product/FOAM_BLOCK_AWR3140

4th Dec 2015 7:13am

roel

Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
Posts: 2039

excossack wrote:
Looking at the link to the blog posted earlier, looks like the door changed shape. They went from almost a 90 degree joint for the bottom frame and side frame to a more curved frame (at least on the front doors)

Yes it looks like it went from a welded together frame to a pressed frame. Should be less prone to rust. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)

4th Dec 2015 7:17am

excossack

Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
Location: North West
Posts: 5834

Looks like I am going to have some fun putting a curve into the door frame. 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock

4th Dec 2015 8:18am

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

driver9 wrote:
Foam block 85p from a LR dealer and free delivery.

http://www.shop4landrover.co.uk/product/FOAM_BLOCK_AWR3140

Thanks for the great tip. The link worked even better than expected. I ordered 16 of these blocks, need 3 now to replace those that have disappeared over the years, and the rest goes into storage. They may be for a Td5, but they are identical to the little blocks used for the earlier Puma doorstrips which were used until model year 2011. They are the original Land Rover items as in the picture posted by dorsetsmith, and the price was 0.71£ a piece net of VAT. The best thing was that Beadles Land Rover Sidcup, Kent offered free DHL shipping to Switzerland, so I paid a total of £11.36 for these 16 little bags/blocks delivered to our house. No Swiss import VAT either as well below the threshold for that.

Kudos to Beadles.

I should have enough of them now for the coming 20 years or so, ...I hope.

10th Dec 2015 4:00pm

driver9

Member Since: 15 Oct 2012
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 111

Eric

Pleased you found the link I posted useful. I have used Beadles a few times for parts and each time the order has been dispatched very quickly.

10th Dec 2015 7:23pm

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