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TDCi Guy wrote:

Overall I'm impressed with the lock. Easy to fit, good looking and pretty cheap.
One issue I've got is that although 4 spacer washers was too tight, using 5 washers leaves it all a bit loose. This results in a bit of rattling when you shut the rear door.

If you could use the wheel spaces fitted on the studs as standard then this wouldn't be an issue as you could just adjust the wheel spacers to tighten it up. However you'd need a whole load of washers to be able to use them. This will also be an issue when I get a spare to match the 285/75/16s fitted to the other wheels. My plan is to knock up a couple of discs of steel to slide in instead of the washers used to space the lock.

All in all a good product just let down by minor design issues.


I have bought this and will fit fairly soon. It says in the instructions to use the original adjustment washers to tighten things up. Did you put them back on?

I have a load of 3mm rubber matting that I am going to cut a piece to fit on the back of the centre disc to protect the wheel and prevent rattles. 2016 D4 HSE

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nakatanenga wrote:
Here the pics of the prototype. No drilling required, adjustable = fits all wheels, 3mm stainless steel construction

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That's more like it! The original (ebay) one is clearly useless with Wolf rims, Blindos, and many other wheel options. The Nak one addresses these, assuming that there's enough adjustment on the padlock plate thingy. Looks a good solution. The padlock is more secure too.
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The "tongue" is adjustable in a certain range. If any shorter or longer is needed we can react and just make it up WANTED:

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Available in about 4 to 5 weeks.

Price not yet fixed, sorry WANTED:

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@nakatanenga & @Brendan...
nakatanenga wrote:
Here the pics of the prototype. No drilling required, adjustable = fits all wheels, 3mm stainless steel construction

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Very interested in this solution Peter... Thumbs Up

Could do with more details, close up of the locking device please... Question

@Brendan - Seems like another opportunity for a Group buy... Whistle

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As soon as the production ones are ready we will be offering them to Defender 2 members.

We will probably have a couple of options with or without lock so you can source the lock if you like. The type of lock is called a puck load or disc/shackle less lock.

It would be advise able to use a wheel cover to keep the elements/muck off the lock.


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the puck lock looks flawed !




That would cause some twisting on the defender!and the flange on the prototype looks a bit flimsy!
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I am not sure it is sensible to distribute even further on the internet how to overcome ANY security device!

A determined scumbag who comes properly tooled up will be able, given enough time to overcome most security devices!.

Now how long and what equipment did the Hatton Gardens thieves use to get through over 0.5m of reinforced concrete recently?


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Sorry Brendan but my approach is different to yours ..the scumbags dont need any advice!as they already know all the tricks ......... but the Defender owners do need to be made aware of the failure of security devices!Yes scumbags tooled up will get past most security but it is my opinion that the flange on the prototype looks too thin and needs beefing up! and you would be better served with one of these with a decent anti pick anti grinder lock:



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It wasn't the lock that failed, it was the hasp.
Post #459136 29th Sep 2015 9:22pm
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In my opinion it is stupid to spread information on how to overcome any security device.

That second photograph can be easily overcome.

First photograph what is the shear strength of 8mm bolts? OK multiply by 3


Now I doubt 3' stilsons and 6' of scaffold poles are standard equipment of the opportinist scumbags

Now what is the expression? Layers of security??


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Blackwolf......Have you looked at the N prototype the flange the lock is attached to looks a weak point to me !
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