acuss01 wrote:

Thanks, Pete for clarifying. I presume the implied message here is it's a Bowler remap not a BAS one. This being in response to those who have suggested it is the same.

bell-auto-services wrote:

I can say you have for sure what you have paid for which is a Bowler branded remap which drives very well.

Ryan@LandRover wrote:

Hi Barney12

As stated by bell-auto-services, the companies that you are referring to are third parties and as such, any modifications that they may offer are not official/Land Rover approved. Therefore, any concerns that may arise due to these modifications would not be covered under the manufacturers warranty.

Regards

Ryan

Supacat wrote:

acuss01 wrote:

Thanks, Pete for clarifying. I presume the implied message here is it's a Bowler remap not a BAS one. This being in response to those who have suggested it is the same.

bell-auto-services wrote:

I can say you have for sure what you have paid for which is a Bowler branded remap which drives very well.

acuss01 - My takeaway from the above is the complete opposite to yours. Have you asked Bowler if the map is the result of work/development done completely in-house or whether they used a well-known third party expert in the field?

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Anyway from my point of view I have a 'contract' with Bowler and this is legally enforceable at their expense.

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acuss01 wrote:

24 June "It's a small point, but we must be clear that the Bowler tune is not 'embraced' within the the standard LR warranty, as Bowler self warrant any work that we do, but we work with LR and the dealers to make sure that your overall warranty provision (and experience) remains the same and any issues are resolved in the correct way with minimum inconvenience to you as the customer"

Read what you want into this. Obviously, I am curious about Ryan at LR's response. However I've noticed in the past comments from Ryan at JLR tend to be very corporate/conservative stock answers. To be fair there is a legal risk to them in saying something that could then cause problems later on.

This is exactly the stance taken by my dealer and Nurburg. If you buy one of Nurburg/UT specials all the non standard bits are covered by them, such as ECU,s exhausts Intercoolers, Bilstein shocks, momo steering wheels etc. Mine was supplied new with the map, by the dealer, supplying just 1 sales invoice. I had no involvement with Nurburg/UT. There is no need to 'Hide' anything come service time etc as they supplied it as is. Another annonomy discussed was wheels/spacers. So I was told, JLR will stand warranty claims as long as the rolling radius is the same as standard, irrespective of wheel offset, but put spacers on standard wheels and forget it Reading peoples dealer experiences vary enormously,the same dealer can offer quite a conflicting experience ! My Td5 ran a Je engineering tune for 2 years and 20000 miles...... No mechanical issues. It has been heavily upgraded and Run Garry's alive tunes for the past 5 years and 65000 miles, again with no issues. Personally I am more concerned about the Anti corrosion warranty,and quality control, 66 years and still the same problems . Both Garry and Pete's workmanship is proven and second to none. Unfortunately only Time will tell should a warranty claim be necessary.