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barbel jim

Member Since: 12 Dec 2012
Location: Northants
Posts: 1432

scotia wrote:
As a Bowler owner - and to clarify things:

Bowler/Land Rover warrant anything the engine tune may be responsible for - dealt with via your normal LR dealer. Anything else your Dealer/Land Rover warrant. Again dealt with via your normal LR dealer (You do not have to go to Bowler for any warranty work. ie whichever party is responsible it will be covered by the normal LR warranty at the dealers.)

ONLY Bowler have this warranty arrangement with LR.

Not so........ Nurberg/Urban Truck work on exactly the same basis as Bowler. Its on my sales receipt

15th Jul 2015 5:51am

ken

Member Since: 18 Aug 2009
Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !!
Posts: 4328

Stage 1 Good

Stage 2 Better

Full Bowler Fast Road pack inc MSA pipe

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@B-Jim proof is in the pudding and only time will tell lets hope you don't need to test it

15th Jul 2015 6:01am

scotia

Member Since: 29 Oct 2014
Location: North Cambs
Posts: 96

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey

"Not so........ Nurberg/Urban Truck work on exactly the same basis as Bowler. Its on my sales receipt,"

Not when I visited them (prior to going to Bowler) and asked them specifically and in detail about, how and who by, their warranty issues were dealt with - but "you pays your money and take your choice!" as the saying goes.

15th Jul 2015 6:11am

Barney12

Member Since: 09 Jun 2015
Location: South West
Posts: 744

2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey

ken wrote:
Stage 1 Good

Stage 2 Better

Full Bowler Fast Road pack inc MSA pipe

Click image to enlarge

@B-Jim proof is in the pudding and only time will tell lets hope you don't need to test it

Blimey I REALY love those Bowler cills!!

I'll never convince the wife though as she won't be able to get in without the XS side steps

15th Jul 2015 6:34am

Go Beyond

Member Since: 30 Jan 2012
Location: Headcorn, Kent
Posts: 6678

You can have the Bowler sills AND XS side steps - we've supplied a few now

15th Jul 2015 6:38am

Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
Posts: 5878

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey

ken wrote:
Stage 1 Good

Stage 2 Better

Full Bowler Fast Road pack inc MSA pipe

Click image to enlarge

@B-Jim proof is in the pudding and only time will tell lets hope you don't need to test it

Ken, that is bloody lovely. Good job...

Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

15th Jul 2015 6:45am

Fellrunner

Member Since: 28 Sep 2014
Location: Wandering
Posts: 258

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Corris Grey

Ken - that is beautiful. Really like the look (I am imagining my 110 in a similar look

).

Three questions - dare I ask the cost (and I imagine the pack included brakes and suspension?), is the roll bar really necessary - is the Defender that bad in a roll situation? - and is the clutch uprated too (I read on another thread that the Autobiography clutch is uprated to deal with 'just' 150bhp?

OP - Sorry to stray off topic, hope you don't mind.

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15th Jul 2015 8:10am

Barney12

Member Since: 09 Jun 2015
Location: South West
Posts: 744

Go Beyond wrote:
You can have the Bowler sills AND XS side steps - we've supplied a few now

Don't suppose you have any pics?

15th Jul 2015 8:54am

taazzukcb

Member Since: 30 Aug 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 663

2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Stornoway Grey

It's one of the 2 suppliers you listed that supply Bowler with their maps

. And it's not the one you origionally booked in with

15th Jul 2015 9:32am

ken

Member Since: 18 Aug 2009
Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !!
Posts: 4328

@ FellRunner

Costs are publicised on the Bowler Website

Rollbar is cosmetic but part of the package

Clutch not upgraded (Time will tell if required however I understand the Bowler Challenge trucks also run on standard Clutch)

15th Jul 2015 9:37am

Darcy Fairfax

Member Since: 05 Oct 2014
Location: London
Posts: 721

Looking to remap but was going to wait till warranty expired - didnt know Bowlers tune could be done with warranty not affected.

So, to those who have it, is the stage 1 good, compared to say BAS or Alive? If similar might go Bowler instead....

Cheers

Andy

15th Jul 2015 9:50am

acuss01

Member Since: 27 Jun 2014
Location: London
Posts: 225

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

I think its only fair to say that I went with Bowler mainly because of the warranty. Its not a reflection of how good Bowler remap is compared to Alive & BAS. I am sure they are all good and I couldn't recommend Bowler on the basis of performance - I just can't say.

However, if as taazzukcb is implying BAS supply Bowler with their remaps, then I have effectively paid £300 +VAT extra to have them fit the ECU for me, provide warranty cover and add some stickers. To be honest, that sounds fine to me! Also, if I were to re-sell the vehicle (unlikely), the Bowler remap would probably be more desirable than others.

Btw a stage 1 remap simply makes the truck drive like a 'normal' car. Its still no sports racer. If you want 'blistering' performance I expect the Stage 2 offers that. But as I said before, Defender Challenge series only have Stage 1 tunes. 2015 110 XS CSW Montalcino Red with Black Pack

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15th Jul 2015 10:17am

Fellrunner

Member Since: 28 Sep 2014
Location: Wandering
Posts: 258

Thanks Ken.

15th Jul 2015 10:47am

acuss01

Member Since: 27 Jun 2014
Location: London
Posts: 225

Here we are folks. This is what you get for your money:

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Click image to enlarge 2015 110 XS CSW Montalcino Red with Black Pack

15th Jul 2015 12:38pm

Darcy Fairfax

Member Since: 05 Oct 2014
Location: London
Posts: 721

acuss01 wrote:
I think its only fair to say that I went with Bowler mainly because of the warranty. Its not a reflection of how good Bowler remap is compared to Alive & BAS. I am sure they are all good and I couldn't recommend Bowler on the basis of performance - I just can't say.

However, if as taazzukcb is implying BAS supply Bowler with their remaps, then I have effectively paid £300 +VAT extra to have them fit the ECU for me, provide warranty cover and add some stickers. To be honest, that sounds fine to me! Also, if I were to re-sell the vehicle (unlikely), the Bowler remap would probably be more desirable than others.

Btw a stage 1 remap simply makes the truck drive like a 'normal' car. Its still no sports racer. If you want 'blistering' performance I expect the Stage 2 offers that. But as I said before, Defender Challenge series only have Stage 1 tunes.

Cheers

15th Jul 2015 4:46pm

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