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Supacat



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It would seem bizarre if JLR did not use it's own family of engines - especially when it's invested £500m in building a new plant and can put 50,000 engines in a new defender every year (those are the figures being quoted as the market JLR are looking to achieve with a new defender).

The 2.0-litre turbocharged diesel will be offered in both 161bhp/280lb ft and 178bhp/317lb ft outputs in the Jag XE so plenty of power & torque relative to current 2.2 Puma; and scope for JLR to use a range of engines to differentiate the top end models with maybe a V6 and 8 or 9 speed auto?
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AndrewS



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Pickles wrote:
They will be using their own "Ingenium" (maybe not spelt right?) engines that will be built in various capacities will they not?
Pickles.


And with the ability to replace a cylinder/s with a/an electric motor/s for the hybrid Defenders , the new vehicle will have electric motors driving the rear wheels so it will have lots of battery storage.
Post #394043 30th Jan 2015 12:55pm
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dnorrishill



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I maybe wrong but isn't the freelander 2 (and by implication) the new jag and Disco Sport engine mounted longitudinally ?

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DiscoStu



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Jag is N/S, Disco Sport is E/W My Disco 'best bits'

Defender 110 XS CSW 2013
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Supacat



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Land Rover Discovery Sport gets Safe Car of the Year
"Land Rover Discovery Sport gets thumbs up from Thatcham for What Car? Safe Car of the Year"

http://fleetworld.co.uk/news/2015/Feb/Land...0434018447

"Land Rover Discovery Sport was the overall award winner, achieving the best overall Euro NCAP score of the year, and also topped the small off-road category. It features standard fit Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) across the range. With its seven seats, this vehicle offers great safety for all the family whilst an external pedestrian airbag – unique in its class and one of only two available in the world - offers additional protection to pedestrians, cyclists and other vulnerable road users on the outside."

i wonder how many of these systems will make it onto the new Defender? Will AEB an external pedestrian airbag be compatible with a full on off-roader?
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bjoern h



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Supacat



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Pickles



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bjoern h wrote:

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I've really got NO idea, but these images don't look too "out of the way", do they?
Pickles.
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BuckBlu110



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Quite like the back end of the swb, but I hope the front end doesn't end up like that, could do with being more square Confused
As for the g wagon, not a fan of that either, might just be the colour though, can see a few g-fans getting upset over that like folks did with the dc100
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lukev01



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So...is this another artist's impression or this "hard" information?

I quite like these! 1970 Series 2A 88"
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tookaphotoof



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My son will probably love it if those pictures show the next Defender. Myself? I'm not a great fan of the cartoon Cars! Shocked
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Fujixs90



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The swb looks good there. Hopefully it'll be something like that.
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Cheshire110



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This has to be an artist mockup right? Because it has the rear x-member, mudflaps etc of a current defender. And they've even included a GB number plate (likely from the current defender they started their manipulation on)

That being said this is my favourite so far! By quite a long way. A good mix of DC100 and current defender. Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
Post #400277 19th Feb 2015 11:26am
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Cheshire110



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Bit of a translation for you -

the successor of the defender mutated from off-road workhorse to modern allrounder - on alu-technology basis of Range Rover Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
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EMPI748



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davidwhittaker wrote:
This has to be an artist mockup right? Because it has the rear x-member, mudflaps etc of a current defender. And they've even included a GB number plate (likely from the current defender they started their manipulation on)

That being said this is my favourite so far! By quite a long way. A good mix of DC100 and current defender.


Shows up on a vehicle enquiry, clearly not grey though Laughing :


✗ Untaxed
Tax due: 01 October 2012
MOT
No details held by DVLA

Vehicle details

6 month rate £126.50
12 month rate £230.00
6 monthly by direct debit totalling £120.75
12 monthly by direct debit totalling £230.00
Monthly by direct debit totalling £241.50 (Monthly payment of approximately £20.13)
Vehicle make LAND ROVER
Date of first registration 18 October 2011
Year of manufacture 2011
Cylinder capacity (cc) 2200cc
CO₂Emissions Not available
Fuel type DIESEL
Export marker Yes
Vehicle status Not taxed
Vehicle colour GREY
Vehicle type approval Not available
Wheelplan 2 AXLE RIGID BODY
Revenue weight Not available
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