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Pickles



Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
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Australia 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green
Supacat,....but it's mainly more "waffle" isn't it?
Pickles.
NB: Love your 130 by the way!
Post #370913 10th Nov 2014 9:09pm
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Supacat



Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
130 not mine sadly Crying or Very sad

Didn't think 2017 had been mentioned before - thought we only had to wait until 2016.
Post #370950 10th Nov 2014 10:40pm
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110MGD



Member Since: 17 Oct 2013
Location: Wear Valley
Posts: 153
2001 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
AndrewS wrote:
I have not read the article in the press release BTW as I don't listen to that Censored .

My thoughts For what it worth If you drive a 200 or 300 please don't read on as you are going to be very upset Thumbs Up

It will have various engine options from big power to electric/diesel eco.

It will have a solid/fixed mounted electric powered rear diff with independent suspension.

Three body sizes/lengths each with different trim levels ie farmer, standard then posh giving 9 base options that can then be specked up or down.

When off road it will make all the other LR products look like a duck on smack trying to cross an ice covered lake.

We (The Public) will be able to mod the body to suit various work requirements.

It wont leak

It WILL be quiet

It will be reliable

It will be a very nice vehicle Thumbs Up


If this is the case, i'll order one Thumbs Up, but i'll never sell my 90 Td5 2001 Td5 CSW (weekend and snow mobile) Plenty of lights, M/T tyres EGR delete, roofrack, swing away wheel carrier, snorkel.
2016 E220 CDI Night Edition Estate
2014 VW UP!
2x D3 and 1x D4 GONE
Post #376330 4th Dec 2014 1:09pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
AndrewS wrote:
.... like a duck on smack trying to cross an ice covered lake


What a wonderful image! Rolling with laughter
Post #376365 4th Dec 2014 3:54pm
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shaun.mobile



Member Since: 12 Dec 2011
Location: England
Posts: 156
United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Fuji White
I like the green square short wheel based 'box'

we have to be realistic and accept that our beloved vehicle cannot be made to fit current and future regulations economically. or put another way. very few of us would be prepared to pay range rover prices for a defender and with diminishing sales that is where the price would be heading.

I am looking for something that is the same size as the defender, has some of the features of the defender like the slab sides and rear, the wheel arches, the alpine windows and the distinctive roof shape.

I like the look of the front of the defender and whilst it is an evolution of the original design it has come on a long way but it is never going to satisfy the safety requirements for a current vehicle and as for the bumper... modern cars have to have a 'soft' front that both absorbs impact and deflects a body up and over a car rather than bouncing it forwards.

I use my defender for work and tow with it every day. I like the way it tows and I like the simplicity of the vehicle.

the problem that jlr face is that there are not enough of us like minded souls buying and they cannot achieve the economies of scale with the current design.

if we want to see the defender continue into the future we have to be prepared to compromise enough so that it appeals to the mass market and unfortunately that will mean having lots of features that the jap 4x4s have.

few of want to see full leather, electric seats, sat nav, head up display etc. if we wanted that we would buy a freelander or something. however I would not want to be without my heated seats, air conditioning, heated front screen, electric windows and central locking and these all fly in the face of what the defender is about.

shoot me down when you are ready
Post #381306 23rd Dec 2014 2:05pm
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gilarion



Member Since: 05 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
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Wales 2007 Defender 90 Other CSW Trident Green
Everything is relative in life! Change is what keeps us a species fresh, the trouble is those who have lived with the old often have difficulty adapting to the new, and it will be the same with the ‘New Defender’.

But after a while we will grow accustomed to the new design, we will adjust. I feel that the problem of the new is that Land Rover has been slow to change the Defender over more than two decades, because let’s face it with the exception of the bonnet, push button doors and a very slight change to the inner frame of the front doors and glass of the back door the Defender has not altered over much in shape since 1984. I can think of no other vehicle that has remained almost the same for so long.

I often wonder what some owners of the original Series 1 Land Rovers (who sadly have now passed away) would make of the new Defender XS models with their many refinements, array of body colours and leather seats or indeed what they would make of the ‘luxury’ vehicles that companies like ‘FCX’ produce, or ‘Urban Truck’.

I have driven all models of Land Rover and all put a smile on my face, even the ‘ Evoque’ and I am sure that whatever shape or design the new Defender may come in that will do the same.
Post #381319 23rd Dec 2014 2:46pm
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Pickles



Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
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Australia 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green
It's still as much a mystery as ever isn't it. Not a single clue from JLR,...NOTHING.
Not even anything on "Final Editions" etc, & then of course there'll be Final Order "Dates"?
But as things unravel, 2015 should be somewhat interesting.
Pickles.
Post #381443 23rd Dec 2014 9:26pm
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steve E



Member Since: 06 Mar 2011
Location: Tenby
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Wales 
I had a call from my main dealer yesterday to say
No news on your last edition order
Will phone you in the new year with some news.
Happy Christmas
Stratstone land rover
Post #381460 23rd Dec 2014 10:40pm
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stravaig



Member Since: 08 Feb 2011
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Scotland 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Rimini Red
I heard that some dealership staff have been to the factory to see the new defender and its pretty much as the artists impression.

Anyone else heard that story???
Post #382426 27th Dec 2014 7:22pm
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GUM97



Member Since: 05 Feb 2012
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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Stornoway Grey
^^Definitely untrue my friend Thumbs Up An engine to TDi for!
"Land Rover- Proudly turning drivers into mechanics since 1948"
Post #382432 27th Dec 2014 7:31pm
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Fatboy Slim



Member Since: 04 Feb 2008
Location: Bridgend
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Wales 
steve E wrote:
I had a call from my main dealer yesterday to say
No news on your last edition order
Will phone you in the new year with some news.
Happy Christmas
Stratstone land rover


Probably because it's stratstone! They probably wouldn't know they had it if it drove over their feet Rolling with laughter Best of luck to you with that bunch of nuggets ! Stu (ex £60k+ a year stratstone Cardiff customer)
Post #382435 27th Dec 2014 7:39pm
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steve E



Member Since: 06 Mar 2011
Location: Tenby
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Wales 
I agree that there crap
But doesn't matter where it comes from as long as I have an order placed.

I've bought three Defenders from them and service has been questionable.
I have thought of placing an order with likes in Brecon but sometimes the unknown can be worse.
At least on Penarth road they know I don't like to be messed about.
Post #382438 27th Dec 2014 7:45pm
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Lorryman100



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Post #392675 26th Jan 2015 10:59am
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uncas



Member Since: 22 Nov 2012
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United Kingdom 
Don't like the alloys on that one Lorryman
Post #392679 26th Jan 2015 11:13am
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shaggydog



Member Since: 12 Aug 2012
Location: Kent
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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue
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Don't like the alloys on that one Lorryman


Front bit looks pretty good though!

Assuming JLR do continue with the proper defender production overseas this has lead to to an interesting problem but also a relief.

The relief being that if they continue to make the proper defender it is very good news for us as it would mean that part availability will remain and may even get better!

Currently, if I have a problem with my defender I just type in for example, defender clutch judder 200Tdi and then get a lot of 99% relevant results. If i look for accessorys or videos or pictures you say defender and everyone knows what you meen. In the future though with the amount of publicity and launching the new defender will have, whats the betting it is going to be much harder to find information or just get the right vehicle?

I can see things like automated form generators having issues when I say "I need x for a defender" and they say "sorry defenders only came out this year they didn't build them before that?"

Just a thought, Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

Self confessed mileage hunter Very Happy
Post #392700 26th Jan 2015 1:23pm
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