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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312   
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as some of you might already know I'm not the most mechanically apt on here.....
anyhow had a go at replacing my pads last night. the photo below is old pad (50k Miles) vs new pads. I did wonder where or not to put the old pads back because they only looked circa 50% worn but then I though while I have the new pads at hand and they are mega money I'd chuck them in. also the chamfered edge on the pads is that there simply to stop some kind of binding or is it some kind of wear indicator in which case the pads were in fact almost worn out? also if you zoom in you might be able to see the chrome finish on the pistons has rusted / flaked off. a bit disappointing but perfectly normal I presume?  Click image to enlarge |
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5th Dec 2014 9:33am |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
Wow, a pad change in the dark this time of year,bit brave innit
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Some pads are chamfered some aren't I believe chamfered types benefits pads fitted to old discs.As for corrosion,yeah,it's normal,annually stripping,cleaning and greasing the caliper helps keep the rust away tho.After a good clean I use silicon grease but gonna try some ceramic grease next year,I won't use copper grease anymore coz it's not good for the piston seals. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5. |
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5th Dec 2014 11:47am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312
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thanks NickH.
was pleasantly surprised at how smoothly the pistons retracted to be fair so .... 
.....good old me - pulled the old pads out and greased everything up which meant I lost the evidence / clues on how to put the stuff back together 
anyhow all back and good. onto rear n/s tonight and possibly front at the weekend. other than the cold and a little drizzle was very pleased at how easy a job it is. ...as always though, trying to improve economy and loose weight I've ditched the two pins and springs the pads came with.....slid the pads in and they didn't fall out so not sure what use those pins are unless you aint got no discs then they might fall out but obviously I have. |
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5th Dec 2014 11:49am |
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| NickH Member Since: 01 Nov 2014 Location: Halifax Posts: 204 
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whoa
tell me your joking about the pins....please  2003 Td5 90
2013 sport hse 2012 700 raptor quad 2012 siromer 4x4 tractor |
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5th Dec 2014 11:56am |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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5th Dec 2014 12:14pm |
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| Rickydodah Member Since: 14 Jul 2014 Location: East Sussex Posts: 1091 |
WTF...please tell me you're joking about the pins. If not can you please post a picture of your Defender so I can avoid you.  I started with nothing and still have most of it left! |
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5th Dec 2014 12:35pm |
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| ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831  
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Why would you not put the new springs and clips in at the same time. They supply them as they need changing at the same time. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to  us off.
Richard |
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5th Dec 2014 12:56pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
 Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5. |
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5th Dec 2014 1:13pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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In case it needs to be put into words (lazily copied and modified from the first website I looked at):
"Many brake pads look similar in design and it is easy to get supplied the wrong parts. Using the wrong parts (e.g. leaving the anti-rattle clips/springs out altogether) can be dangerous as the brake rattle if excessive could mean the pads moving in the caliper and becoming even jammed and not operating properly. Brake pad rattle can also lead to the pads skewing sideways and locking in the caliper causing the backing plates to be bent and the friction material to be broken away and cause immense problems." Please let this all be a joke... Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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5th Dec 2014 1:16pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5111  
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We have talked about your fascination with economy before Caterham and I applaud you for your latest endeavour i.e. reducing the overall weight by ditching the pins and springs. On the other hand have you considered the extra weight of brake fluid and the extra mass of the callipers, discs, pads and brake lines? 
Just a suggestion and forgive me if you have already considered this and marked it for a weekend job! But if you remove the brake fluid, callipers, discs, pads and brake lines, I am sure you would notice an improvement in your overall economy, plus and here is the clever bit, on each journey you would probably find yourself completing the journey in another vehicle albeit with sirens and flashing lights but this journey would be free and would require no fuel being used in the Defender whatsoever. |
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5th Dec 2014 1:49pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312
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Been tied up this afternoon pulling def out of ditch....would appear there's a problem with the rear brake - might be related to the pads having dropped out or something...
Only joking -pins n springs did go back in
Jimbob7 thanks for telling me about the copper grease after having puts loads on 
Brave doing it in the dark, cold and wet.......? No just plain stupid I guess |
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5th Dec 2014 3:12pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312
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On a serious note the pads didn't come with any s/s shims so rightly or wrongly I re-used the existing?
Seems ok. The only thing that I'd surprise me was first application of brake felt like the pedal was going to hit the floor like there was no fluid in system but fine after that? |
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5th Dec 2014 3:23pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6628 
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That's the pads re-seating themselves and closing up the gap to the disc.
1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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5th Dec 2014 3:34pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312
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Aha - that makes perfect sense.
Thanks Martin. |
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5th Dec 2014 3:54pm |
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