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Merlin



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I'd recommend stainless steel pistons. There is another thread with details.

Merlin
Post #376645 5th Dec 2014 4:16pm
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munch90



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I don't think you really need to worry about copa slip on pads , as its been used in 99.9% of garages for doing brake pads for what 50 yrs , so cant see it being that bad

and its main use has always been on brakes , if it was no good then it would say on the tin or tube

ok ceramic grease seems to be the latest thing , but used copa slip myself for many many years and not ever known a problem , BUT ceramic grease tube does say not to get it on rubbers

just use a small amount on pad backplate surfaces , make sure not any on fictiion surface , a dab will do as they say

one thing I would not be using and never heard of any car trade or garage using would be silicone grease , yes its high temp , waterproof etc BUT it creeps you put a small dab of it on something then look at it few weeks later and it will have spread out , not something you want on brakes

from molyslip website who make copaslip :
In the automotive industry Copaslip is recommended by major automotive manufacturers for use as a lubricant
behind disc brake pads to prevent brake squeal and for application to pivot points and adjusters on drum brakes to
facilitate adjustments. For exhaust systems use Copaslip between manifold, pipes and mufflers for removal without
distortion or damage. Copaslip is also excellent for spark plug threads cylinder head bolts and gasket surfaces.
Post #376646 5th Dec 2014 4:18pm
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Caterham



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Great - thanks for that.

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Post #376653 5th Dec 2014 4:43pm
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Rickydodah



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I'm with Munch on this one. In my days as a technical advisor for a major motor chain this question arose, after spending a week at Lockheed/Girling factory at Redditch they were very much in favour of using a copper based anti-seize product. As pretty much all brake sealing components have been made from synthetic products the petroleum base of most greases has no detrimental effect. There are some vegetable based greases which used to seriously damage components and vice versa with petroleum based but by and large they were natural rubber based which used to badly deteriorate even in sunlight (anyone remember the Citroen suspension systems). In the best part of fifty years I've probably used about a hundredweight (about 50kg for anyone younger than 40) and the only problem I've ever had is trying to wash the stuff out of my boiler suits. Bow down I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
Post #376658 5th Dec 2014 4:58pm
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Birdy



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Coincidentally, my supplying/main dealer has just ‘phoned to say that at my truck’s 4th service and MOT in July there was an ”advisory” to the effect that the rear pads would soon need changing. Not true, and the only MOT comment was “Engine covers fitted obscuring some components in the engine bay” which I found bizarre.

Anyway, they’ll be pleased to book my vehicle in to do the job before Christmas… at a cost of £174.00!

Like Caterham, I’ve found changing pads simple enough - I know one can get caught out, but I’ve always been lucky with the pistons retracting quite easily - and although I’d buy genuine LR pads rather than experimenting with EBC or whatever, the dealer’s taking the proverbial.

Peter

How much ARE genuine LR pads, by the way?
Post #376661 5th Dec 2014 5:15pm
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Caterham



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They're £173.

Laughing

Birdy no idea would imagine / hope less than £50.

So I guess they're charging circa 1 - 1.25 hrs?
Post #376701 5th Dec 2014 9:55pm
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Caterham



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Not had a good day today so don't want to attempt the front pads tonight if they're going to be more difficult than the back...
I presume / hope that the front won't be any more difficult than the rear's?
Post #376842 6th Dec 2014 5:18pm
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mk1collector



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Surely you don't think changing rear pads was hard Shocked if so maybe you should leave car maintenance to a qualified garage!
Post #376873 6th Dec 2014 6:43pm
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Caterham



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No the back's were a doddle......

I just didn't want to start something that might turn out to be a bummer.........

Anyhow I've now done the front o/s.

No new pins or springs this time so had to re-use the originals. Not sure why there weren't???


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Post #376893 6th Dec 2014 8:08pm
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Caterham



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all done.......

which means if I can do it anyone can!!

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Post #379099 15th Dec 2014 7:12am
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Caterham



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I need to retract my last statement of easy / done it.

Well gone and done it might be better....for the 3rd time tonight brake warning light came on any def has been pulling to left when braking....quite significantly on on occasion.

Checked brake fluid level and front o/s wheel.....fluid level looks fine / high but wheel and disc covered in oil!

Not sure what I did wrong but clearly something ain't right?

Crying or Very sad
Post #386597 8th Jan 2015 10:47pm
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RobKeay



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Is it oil or dirty brake fluid? Any chance the brake pipe got damaged? Be careful!
Post #386602 8th Jan 2015 10:59pm
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RobKeay



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The light will come on even if it's 1mm to low
Post #386604 8th Jan 2015 11:00pm
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landy andy



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Check the bleed nipple is tight first. And top up the fluid even if it looks ok, before air gets in the system.

Andy
Post #386616 8th Jan 2015 11:27pm
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Caterham



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I've not touched the brake nipped but will have a look all the same.

Thanks.
Post #386653 9th Jan 2015 7:41am
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