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gilarion



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Does not matter what fuel you use as long as you use this
http://www.millersoils.co.uk/automotive/re...Automotive
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Cheshire110



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^ I infrequently use the redex stuff, get it in bulk from Costco Thumbs Up

No idea if it makes a difference but it's a nice thought isn't it! Cheers, David
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Post #374470 27th Nov 2014 12:34am
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LR90XS2011



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BP Ultimate if I'm local as there is a station 1 mile from my home if I'm away from home then anything except a super market DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #374475 27th Nov 2014 6:11am
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bpman



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Shell V power in the V8

In the diesel - Bp ultimate every 4th tank .. Bp regular the rest if the time
Post #374479 27th Nov 2014 6:51am
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Caterham



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david,

I don't doubt what you say that it all comes from the same place but it does begger the question of how one of the super markets a few years back managed to screw up a load of engines due if I recall as a result of a high silicon content?
Post #374480 27th Nov 2014 6:54am
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Kevzeboy



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davidwhittaker wrote:
This always makes me laugh....

Having seen behind the scenes and witnessed the same trucks filling many petrol stations, supermarket and otherwise.

The only thing worth considering is any additives but probably more importantly the state of the holding tank (age, amount of crud, how full it was when you took your fuel, rate of turnover etc.

The fact that the pump says tesco on it really doesn't mean the slightest thing!

Clever thing, the placebo effect!


It is down to the additives that goes into the fuel. Supermarkets don't put any in.

It is like your car going better on a cold morning because of slightly a slightly denser oxygen content in the air. It is that little bit that makes the difference. Same with fuel.

Ultamatly, please yourself!

Kevin
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munch90



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Caterham wrote:
david,

I don't doubt what you say that it all comes from the same place but it does begger the question of how one of the super markets a few years back managed to screw up a load of engines due if I recall as a result of a high silicon content?


I remember that , had a few cars in for it , all it done was upset lamada sensor reading , sensor replaced and drained tank and they were fine
Post #374488 27th Nov 2014 7:27am
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ericvv



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Post #374504 27th Nov 2014 8:34am
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TJ101



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Would not touch cheap supermarket fuel,,its NOT all the same,,have seen the issues it can cause,


Shell V power in most of mine, or FIA fuel (at over 5.50 euros a lt Big Cry ) California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1

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Post #374531 27th Nov 2014 9:50am
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smb



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Best thing to do would be to run your Def until nearly empty, give the cash to your wife/girlfriend/partner(obviously, only if you trust them!!) and get them to fill up to the top with different types and keep a record of what went in and when. After half a dozen of fills you decide what it runs better on. Forget the Placebo effect as its a load of bo11ocks AND MOSTLY GIVEN AS AN EXCUSE BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. Your talking about a mechanical system with a car.

BP ultimate and Shell V+ ARE better, but don't forget Texaco as they have a better quality too.

Also, don't forget to take notes on the type of driving and the temperature as your vehicle will more than likely feel that it has more power when the weather is a bit colder. Plus take into account altitude, etc, etc, etc......

Just watch the high ratio Bio cr4p diesel. That is the stuff you want to avoid like the plague.

Other than that, put in what you want to put in and just enjoy it.

Oh, and just because it says Ultimate/V+, ETC it doesn't, necessarily mean that that is what is going to come out of the pump unless you trust the petrol station. There have been a couple of franchises around the North West over the years that have been pretty unscrupulous.
Post #374537 27th Nov 2014 10:03am
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Clemmo



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Fuel
We live close to Kingsbury Oil refinery and can confirm that Tankers of all Brands and All supermarkets regular frequent the same refinery for their Diesel supplies.
The diesel is without doubt refined the same...but each suppliers have their own additive supplied at source.

Clemmo Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow....
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Post #374544 27th Nov 2014 10:21am
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NinetyTD4



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Now 350k miles almost exclusively with Ultimate (BP/ARAL on the continent) in the 90. Wifey is burning standard diesel (this for the engine not authorized 7% FAME EU Censored ) and has a lot more engine trouble ... worth more then the price difference would have been ... Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.
Post #374596 27th Nov 2014 2:22pm
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Caterham



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350k miles...very good.

any 2 stroke oil been used along the way and how are the rest of the mechanicals ?

Off Topic sorry.
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ericvv



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smb wrote:
Just watch the high ratio Bio cr4p diesel. That is the stuff you want to avoid like the plague..


Fully agree,....... But we here do not have that problem, Switzerland never authorised biodiesel, so all diesel sold here is B0 (B zero) Whistle Thumbs Up You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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tookaphotoof



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Kevzeboy wrote:
My TDCI runs sweeter and gives the best mpg on V-Power or BP Ultimate. Not that I put it in that often. It actually isn't a false economy if you try and work it out.

Funny enough, my td5 didn't go any better with the dear stuff?

If you use super market stuff, you deserve what it will do to you engine!


Shell customer simply because it's the least expensive in my area. Can't comment on on BP Ultimate, but I never noticed a better performing engine filling the tank with VPower. I did noticed the increased performance of my fuel pump. It empties my tank a lot faster. Bow down
Needless to say, I'll just fill up with their regular diesel...
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