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I've never been particularly taken with the LED Lenser stuff, it all seems over priced and over marketed for what it is.

I've got a Fenix LD10 (1*AA) which I've had for a while and that's been good, an Eagtac T200C2 (1*18650 or 2* CR123) for rather less time but is seriously bright and a Zebralight H52F.

The Zebralight is the single most impressive light I've seen. It's bright, has good run times and is seriously well built. I carry it almost every day in my pocket and have done for the past year and it stull looks as fresh as it did out of the packet. Despite sharing a pocket with all manner of other stuff, being dropped, thrown against things, etc. etc., it still looks perfect and performs as new. The UI is very easy to use (I know some people don't like it, but it really works for me) and I really couldn't recommend it enough.

As with all high powered torches they do work best on rechargeables. Eneloops are good, I got mine from http://www.ledfiretorches.co.uk/ and I have to say I can't fault them. I use a Nitecore Intellicharger i4 which will charge both niMH and Li Ion batteries, I have Eneloops, 14500 and 18650 Li-Ions. The Zebralight is cheapest direct from the manufacurer but you do have to wait a bit for them to arrive.

IMO floody versions are best for working up close which is what I use my head torch for. I haven't tried it but apparently you can put tape over the lens of a throwy lights to make it act like the floodier ones. Because of the broad spread of the light, my Fenix actually looks "brighter" than the ZL because it's more focussed, despite actually putting out far fewer lumens. If you think about it and actually take in to account the spread of the ZL beam you can see where the lumens are going and it's a great light for working on things, but it's not an impressive "wow" light.

So yes. Go here: http://www.zebralight.com/ . Buy one. Or two. Or all of them. And some decent rechargeable batteries Thumbs Up
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keith



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Shocked that's some collection of torches mate .
So you dig tunnels or work in outer space .
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It's only 3!
Plus some smaller ones Embarassed

There's my "working at night in the dark" torch, my "popping down the pub"/"I might need some light" torch and my "I need to see across this field" torch. When I'm working somewhere gloomy, it makes a huge difference to have a headtorch that you can rely on to just do its job and do it well. I chose the floody one because when you're working on things close up, the "traditional" throwy beam pattern of a central hotspot with a significantly dimmer spill is quite distracting and unhelpful. Being as it runs on a single AA battery instead of the more common three AAA batteries, it's smaller, lighter and cheaper to run. You get about the same amount of energy stored in three AAA batteries and a AAA costs about the same as a AA so per unit of energy stored you're paying close to three times the amount.

Seriously though, I cannot recommend Zebralight highly enough. My boss baulks at the idea of spending £40 on "just a torch" but must have spent approaching that on a string of cheap ones that don't work as well and break. I'm not saying it's perfect in every way and will never go wrong, but things are going well so far.

There's loads of information about torches around on the intertubes, the best known forum is CandlePowerForums which can get quite serious, BudgetLightForum is IMO a bit more down to earth and sensible. I'm not a member of them, but am a member of the MultiTool.org forum which also has a torch section Thumbs Up

Edit: oh, and it's worth searching for forum discount codes from torch websites, a lot have CPF/BLF discounts.
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I buy these, cheap as chips, never broken one but lost a few...when I say lost some of my colleagues tend to borrow them, but at 8 quid each.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UltraFire-1800LM...3a8a15f96a


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Some good alternatives there, I had not considered previously - so back of to do some more research Thumbs Up
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Rickydodah wrote:
I buy these, cheap as chips, never broken one but lost a few...when I say lost some of my colleagues tend to borrow them, but at 8 quid each.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UltraFire-1800LM...3a8a15f96a


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keith



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ALL THOSE WITH LENSERS......
F1 or P1 ?
I'm about to buy the F1 but all reviews rate the P1 just as good . The F1 relies on special battery that can't be recharged . Opinions please . Cheers

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Just to throw a spanner in the works , have you checked out coast torches , I think as good as lenser if not better and better value
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Bows



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Lighthouse do a great range of cree led torches, I have 2, both great torches giving awesome light output.
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i have a led lenser p7 which is a nice little torch, but not as good as my jetbeam pa 40!! great little torch! My 109 thread

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I have an LED Lenser P5 (Free (?) with my Leatherman... Mr. Green ) and do think they are a smart little torch especially with the slide to focus function... Thumbs Up

But it in no way stands up to the sheer power of my Mag-Tac LED, which is awesome... Bow down



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keith wrote:
ALL THOSE WITH LENSERS......
F1 or P1 ?
I'm about to buy the F1 but all reviews rate the P1 just as good . The F1 relies on special battery that can't be recharged . Opinions please . Cheers

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I think there's two ways to go with power.

1. Stick with AA - good trade off with power vs weight; and as most of my other stuff is AA only one battery type to carry. In emergencies, I can rob batteries for other equipment to power a torch and then swap back if necessary; or

2. Rechargeables - but only the type that don't need taking out of the torch and placing in a separate charger. Also, even better if they are micro/mini usb then I'm not having to carry a bespoke lead and can use the same one to charge phone, torch, data logger, etc from same cheap commonly available lead. Benefit also that it will fit directly into the usb on the audio head unit for charging.

I favour the latter.
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munch90 wrote:
Just to throw a spanner in the works , have you checked out coast torches , I think as good as lenser if not better and better value


I've been checking their range out but find the lack of a plug in to recharge model disappointing. Do they also use the latest generation of LED?
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munch90 wrote:
Just to throw a spanner in the works , have you checked out coast torches , I think as good as lenser if not better and better value

+1 for Coast not got one Sad but seen them in use Thumbs Up
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Supacat wrote:
munch90 wrote:
Just to throw a spanner in the works , have you checked out coast torches , I think as good as lenser if not better and better value


I've been checking their range out but find the lack of a plug in to recharge model disappointing. Do they also use the latest generation of LED?


they use the cree leds not the little cheap dome ones .

I know what you mean I really wanted one with a charging dock , but the led lenser just holds to charger by magnet not sure it would stay put when driving
but the coast usb charging is ok for me as its the same plug as my phone, tablet etc and have bluesea usb sockets fitted and the fact you get spare batterys that can be recharged out of the torch or fitted in torch so you have a spare charged I like , you get 2 rechargeable packs and one that take standard batterys

i have a led lenser and coast roughly the same size , but I would say coast is brighter and looks as good made really being its cheaper
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