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g-mack Member Since: 07 Jan 2014 Location: northumberland Posts: 1967 |
my understanding is
black-overfuelling (rich mixture) grey -unburnt fuel blue - oil white- air or water My 109 thread my youtube channel |
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9th Sep 2014 9:09am |
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ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 |
If it pulls like a train, the black smoke may well be result of an unknown remapping. Is it possible to load back the original map, and then see if the smoke disappears? You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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9th Sep 2014 10:28am |
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K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 |
You could try contacting the historical owner perhaps? Sounds like a remap of some descript as Eric stated. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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9th Sep 2014 11:12am |
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SupraAyf Member Since: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Durham Posts: 142 |
Thanks for all of the replies guys; much appreciated indeed.
My 90 has had 3 owners by all accounts so I'll be able to establish the 3rd owner in the V5C and the first in the owners/service book. I'm thinking along the same lines as you though, i.e. a tuning map has been added without any other supporting mods. I wonder if the likes of Alive Tuning would be able to supply a standard UK map. - Andrew - |
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9th Sep 2014 11:23am |
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K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 |
You may have one of the maps from one of the forum sponsors already and you could be paying for something you already have albeit an earlier version perhaps? Contact them in the first instance and see if they themselves may have any records if you don't have any joy with the previous owners. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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9th Sep 2014 11:47am |
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SupraAyf Member Since: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Durham Posts: 142 |
That's a good plan. The car has been in the North of the country for all of its life so I'll drop BAS in York a note. I'll update everyone with the results.
All the best, Andrew - Andrew - |
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9th Sep 2014 11:51am |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
I don't believe a BAS map would cause black smoke Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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9th Sep 2014 2:26pm |
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dulwich man Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Dulwich Posts: 64 |
Tend to agree with ZE defender. All of the site sponcers in this area are too professional to allow this and it my judgement if a problem did arise all of their customers would know that they could go back to them for remedial action. Most probably free of charge as they understand the real value of reputation and how a bad word gets around.
PS Not in the pay of any of them! |
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9th Sep 2014 3:21pm |
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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20292 |
Main dealer could always load the standard map, I've been running the standard map ever since I've had mine.
I'm personally quite happy with it. |
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9th Sep 2014 3:47pm |
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K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 |
Early maps can easily be 'thrown out' by the addition of extras such as snorkels/rai, performance air filter, decatting etc. and black smoke, surging, and overboosting can occur very easily.
If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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9th Sep 2014 5:14pm |
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martinfiattech Member Since: 13 Nov 2013 Location: leicester Posts: 422 |
While your at it, inspect the inlet manifold for obstructions and the boost pressure sensor ( the latter can be cleaned gently with an old tooth brush and some brake cleaner). Excuse the spelling I`am better with spanners and wires.
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9th Sep 2014 6:01pm |
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grizz Member Since: 31 Aug 2014 Location: cheshire Posts: 208 |
If its black smoke it's over fuelling .. You could have a boost leak ..
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9th Sep 2014 6:17pm |
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SupraAyf Member Since: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Durham Posts: 142 |
Yep, you're right, thought as much good mate. I think the plan about me phoning around is a non-starter.
I wasn't aware about a map being thrown out so that's a good point. I've checked over the Landy and I can't find any performance mods so far.
Cheers Martin. The EGR housing and the inlet manifold are all sooted-up to heck. Can you point me in the direction of the boost pressure sensor please. I have ordered a new Puma CD Manual from eBay today (for £3) so I should be more informed soon enough. (He thinks, lol). - Andrew - |
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9th Sep 2014 7:33pm |
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martinfiattech Member Since: 13 Nov 2013 Location: leicester Posts: 422 |
Boost pressure sensor lives on the inlet manifold intake pipe it`s self, it's about the size of a matchbox, (black thing with ford or bosch written on it). One connector with four wires going into it.
Make sure the o ring seal comes out with it. For more information try ford transit / Mondeo dura torq black smoking. Theres loads of info on ford sites, along with how to`s. And horror pictures of how bad they can clog up with carbon / oil mixture. Hope you`ve got some good soap !! Excuse the spelling I`am better with spanners and wires. |
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9th Sep 2014 8:33pm |
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