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| Go Beyond Member Since: 30 Jan 2012 Location: Headcorn, Kent Posts: 6678  
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Why not get the installer to wire it properly ?
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30th Dec 2013 9:16pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2747
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Because I'm the installer haha!
And didn't fancy them being forced on by the engine and me not being able to turn them off (as the police car needed to do in the above example!) Does such a relay exist? Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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30th Dec 2013 9:20pm |
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| Go Beyond Member Since: 30 Jan 2012 Location: Headcorn, Kent Posts: 6678
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I'm sure it does but not sure it would work with LEDs
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30th Dec 2013 9:22pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2747
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What dims them? Do you have a unit that does it? I don't fancy the voltage sensor thingy though, just want it to dip with sidelights Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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30th Dec 2013 9:26pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2747
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Yeah I did briefly try that but the auto on unit doesn't work with a 12v feed from the switch. It needs a straight feed from the battery which would require a lot of effort and wouldn't be protected by a fuse etc
May just live with switching them off/on when I need them! Ideally there would be a simple 'LED dim' relay... Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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30th Dec 2013 9:30pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Here is an extract of the current EU regulations concerning DRLs (E/ECE/324 E/ECE/TRANS/505 } Rev.1/Add.47/Rev.6) On page 73 you can read this... 6.19.7.1. The daytime running lamps shall be switched ON automatically when the device which starts and/or stops the engine is in a position which makes it possible for the engine to operate. However, daytime running lamps may remain OFF while the automatic transmission control is in the park or neutral position, while the parking brake is applied or after the propulsion system is activated but the vehicle was not set in motion for the first time. The daytime running lamps shall switch OFF automatically when the front fog lamps or headlamps are switched ON, except when the latter are used to give intermittent luminous warnings at short intervals. In a nutshell, they have to come on and switch off automatically as above, not manually via a button. Mine are wired to come on with the contact on, go off automatically once turning the parking lights or low or high beam on. But they remain illuminated when without any lights turned on I give a high beam warning signal. That is the correct way, including for Switzerland where our MOT equivalent took the pleasure verifying if the installation was correct. And it was indeed. 
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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30th Dec 2013 9:32pm |
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Bloody EU!
| GUM97 Member Since: 05 Feb 2012 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3555 
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Something like these ...?
http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic...es-or-drl/ http://britelightleds.co.uk/index.php?rout...#container An engine to TDi for! "Land Rover- Proudly turning drivers into mechanics since 1948"  |
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30th Dec 2013 9:35pm |
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| GUM97 Member Since: 05 Feb 2012 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3555
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Eric- Thanks for posting that, it clarifies the matter nicely
An engine to TDi for!
"Land Rover- Proudly turning drivers into mechanics since 1948" |
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30th Dec 2013 9:37pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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GUM, I am by no means keen on this kind of legalistic documents, but sometimes they come in handy. So for those having questions or doubts, here is the fully Monty of the EU lights regulations, I believe this revision 6 is the up to datest version. Re DRLs look on pages 72 and 73.
Happy bed time reading 
Eric https://www.defender2.net/gallery/albums/u...proval.pdf You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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30th Dec 2013 9:47pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2747
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It's annoying all the DRL controllers you find use a voltage sensor to trigger the on/off by sensing the alternator voltage or batt voltage (~13.5V vs ~12v) but I don't want that..
The voltage sensors don't work with a 12v ignition feed, they need straight from the battery which I don't have a feed at the front for. Therefore they won't ever come on, sensing only ever 12v Ideally need to find just a relay that dims an LED when a feed triggers it, but never seen such a simple one. Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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30th Dec 2013 9:58pm |
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| Go Beyond Member Since: 30 Jan 2012 Location: Headcorn, Kent Posts: 6678
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Why not wire correctly to the battery positive through a fuse and then switch the earth for manual off control
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30th Dec 2013 10:00pm |
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| Killer90 Site Sponsor Member Since: 09 Oct 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 6478 
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Glad your happy David, looks great fitted Just to clariffy this is one of our new design custom made 5mm thick flush fit D.R.L Bumpers which allows the drls to also be adjusted if needed. cheapest price out there for such quality to Forum members
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30th Dec 2013 10:01pm |
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| GEllis Member Since: 21 Nov 2013 Location: Cornwall Posts: 58  
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David, from your initial post you said you had another wire you did not use, I would guess this needs to be connected to the side lights and the unit will dim the lights. You could then switch the positive allows you to have them on or not.
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30th Dec 2013 10:06pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2747
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Yeah it's really good Killer, cheers. The bumper has fewer mud traps than the factory one too!
And GEllis it came with a voltage sensor as are easily available on eBay, but I don't like them. They often don't seem to work and they don't work with a 12v ignition feed but only a direct battery feed. I could've used this as it also incorporated a 'turn off with the sidelights' function but as I've said I don't want to have to rewire my wiring and switch to use the battery Again, ideally I just want a relay to dim my LEDs with the sidelight feed (no auto on/voltage sensor function) Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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30th Dec 2013 10:17pm |
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