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Sonarmender



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England 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
Oil Service Warning
Could anyone please tell me if the OIL SERVICE warning which is displayed on the dash of a 2012 Defender is based on:

1. Time / Mileage

2. Oil Condition.

Answers on a postcard please! Rolling with laughter

Many thanks. Thumbs Up You only have one life, live it....forget the cost.
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Post #292248 21st Dec 2013 5:42pm
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custom90



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Have you checked the level? (Probably have but worth mentioning.) $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Sonarmender



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Yep level checked this morning and was fine and I would say quite clean for a 10,000 mile engine.

Since the last oil change in May of this year the Defender has done approx 5500 miles of which there has been a lot of short stop start journeys….

So I was wondering if the oil condition was monitored and it has become contaminated due to the DPF… or has the dealer forgotten to reset the diagnostics. Whistle You only have one life, live it....forget the cost.
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K9F



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From Google....

http://www.lrspares.co.za/workshop/defender-service-interval

*Please note the service indicator may activate frequently prior to the scheduled service, this is based on the driver specific drive-cycles. The engine oil only and oil filter must be changed when the service light is activated prior to the scheduled service interval. This is monitored electronically and reported by the vehicle on interrogation. Replacement vehicle order as per ECPS to be aligned with the intervals noted above. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!


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custom90



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It might be there is no issue anyway, I seem to remember that that can come up on there if the dial binicle it's self is un-plugged. Has it been or maybe loose? I could be barking it the wrong tree anyway but I seem to remember some one had similar occur.
I'd disconnect the battery for ten minutes and then reconnect it and see if it still displays.
If it isn't a nuisance and it really is an issue diagnostics should give you more info using the logged DTC's if any are present that should point you to the issue. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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K9F



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^^^

Woof woof! Rolling with laughter Bow down Rolling with laughter

Think the bold bit highlighted above in my post plus this fact below may possibly be the cause?

Sonarmender wrote:
of which there has been a lot of short stop start journeys….
 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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2. oil condition as mine was after 8k
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Sonarmender



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Now you have me thinking Neutral

it went in about two weeks ago for a wiper motor change, perhaps they disconnected the binnacle then!

Or on the other hand perhaps the oil is gopin and is indeed in need of a change Rolling Eyes

Next question Question

If I change the oil and filter, will the light go off or does it have to be reset by the dealer.

Bow down Bow down You only have one life, live it....forget the cost.
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custom90



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If it doesn't go off once the battery has been reconnected and the oil and filter has changed then it might well do.
I doubt this will be the case though.


Mal - you've beaten me again! I reckon your right.


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I didn't even know Defenders had an Oil Service warning on the dash! I've seen it in our FL2 and D3, but I didn't think the Defender was that advanced Whistle An engine to TDi for!
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custom90



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On the Puma's it is! Wink $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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K9F



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It has to be reset by a dealer and Westovers (my local) will charge you for this. You are quite entitled to carry out your own oil change as long as you keep the receipt and purchase the right spec BUT you cannot get rid of the light.

I am unsure whether a half-decent fault code reader will clear it if you have one.

Merry Christmas to you too Steve (Kona). Just getting even for the 'ego dig!' It pains me to say it but you were right ya know!.  If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!


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Defender-Stu



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Sonarmender wrote:
Now you have me thinking Neutral

it went in about two weeks ago for a wiper motor change, perhaps they disconnected the binnacle then!

Or on the other hand perhaps the oil is gopin and is indeed in need of a change Rolling Eyes

Next question Question

If I change the oil and filter, will the light go off or does it have to be reset by the dealer.

Bow down Bow down


The service light so to speak needs to be reset Thumbs Up, you could pop up to a Indy like Devon 4x4 as a example and they won't charge as much Very Happy
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K9F



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About a year ago Bryan Avill my mate who sadly passed away recently had exactly the same conundrum when he changed his own oil on his 2.2. He didn't half give the dealer some stick but they wouldn't budge on charging for the reset. Quite a lot too! Season of Goodwill? Bah Humbug! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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custom90



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It's a good money spinner then....
Anyone know exactly how it is created? Similar to DTC codes? Do all Puma models have it? $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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