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Likeomg



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2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
indeed, when the focals are on loud, the alpine sub can't keep up and sounds pants. with rear seats going in, space is a bit tighter
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custom90



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I see, it's an Active sub so isn't really going to be massive in power. Your only option in the front except perhaps two active subs is like what I have done. It still limits room in the front a bit more though but here isn't much anyway. The glovebox mid would help though. No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #283228 18th Nov 2013 4:59pm
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barbel jim



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 HT Tonga Green
Likeomg wrote:
anybody got any big bass subs in there defender? i have focals all around then the alpine SWE-1200 which is severly lacking for me...

anybody got any neat sub installs in a defender? specifically a 90? when i install my rear seats i will be dynamatting the rear


Yep Whistle 2 10" in sealed enclosures with focals all round its sweet Mr. Green
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Likeomg



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2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
located?
Post #283277 18th Nov 2013 6:38pm
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barbel jim



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 HT Tonga Green

Click image to enlarge It is a Hard top that works for a living. It would restrict forward facing seats a bit but is in total 180mm wide. This was to accomidate the magnets Whistle It also has a double skinned front, so the speakers are recessed not proud. I have looked and thought hard about different solutions but it works for me currently Thumbs Up
Post #283287 18th Nov 2013 7:06pm
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Potter



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Stornoway Grey
When I bought my defender a few months ago the dealer fitted a stereo to it for me as part of the deal, it isn't a standard fit LR one and isn't even that decent but it does have a sub out etc.

In one of my other cars I run Focal components with tweets on the dash, mids in the front doors and 2 x 6x9 subs on the back shelf (the boot is sealed), these are all run from an amp.

The sound in my defender is really crap compared to the other car...

Does the standard defender tweeter and speaker set up have cross overs? Or does all of the sound come out of all of the speakers? (both under the dash and the tweeters on the dash)? I'm wondering if I can improve the sound by running a sub from the 'sub out' on the head unit and somehow intalling some better speakers?

Any help greatfully appreciated
Post #283598 19th Nov 2013 10:06pm
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It will all help, the standard tweeters do have an X over but they aren't great when you up the power they just get really loud and sharp and not really the crisp highs you want. A sub would be really good but speaker upgrade helps too.
Sound proofing is worth looking into as that drowns out a lot of the engine and road noise which is to be expected really. No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #283610 19th Nov 2013 11:03pm
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Stornoway Grey
So as a budget option to improve the quality would you just buy a slim line sub?
On my other head unit I can use a LPF and HPF to split the sound between various speakers but the head unit in the defender just has the tweeters and the speakers under the dash on the same 'FRONT' setting...
Post #283765 20th Nov 2013 4:47pm
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Yes an active sub would be a good idea, not a massive increase in bass but enough to make a difference. Thumbs Up A passive sub and amp set up will cost quite a bit even using cheaper kit. No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #283800 20th Nov 2013 6:08pm
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martinfiattech



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Hello and good morning everyone

I am new to defender ownership so sorry if this is in wrong place etc ( I,ve had it for four weeks one of which it spent at the dealers in many bits Laughing )

I have a 90 hard top which is ply lined in the rear and has a 18 mm thick mdf bulk head section separating the front and rear parts of the car with a 12"x8" window cut out in the centre so you can see out the back window this I would like to keep as it hides my tools and welder away from prying eyes also the mess Embarassed .

I am in the process of up grading the stereo so my trusty kenwood radio cassette and 6 disc multy changer have come out the Vectra and into the land rover. It also has a parrot mki 9200 which gives me the use of usb sd cards etc to store / play music thru, I see many people have moved speakers around and changed them I would like to put some good wide range speakers in both front doors which I would like to cover over in either veltrim or carpet so they can not be seen (the whole of the interia will be carpeted as time and money permits )

also I would like to fit speakers to the rear as the standard ones are rubbish I would like to fit the speakers in side the rear wheel arches to try and utilise as much of the space in side the car for storage / seating carrying kit etc these would be covered over to keep out of site (council estate upbringing if they cant see it they cant steel it )

if anyone has done this I would be gratefull for any advice / recommendations also it must be able to play the stone roses / cure at a embarrassing levels at traffic lights to annoy kids in saxo,s

Thanks martin .
Post #288351 7th Dec 2013 11:12am
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custom90



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All of that is possible, just make sure you check measurements in all aspects. It can be a little tight.
Depth especially but mid size speakers are no problems but you won't get 16cm speakers or 6x9's to fit everywhere.
On top the wheel arches are fine if you have room there. Barbel Jim has some nice 6x9's there in enclosures.
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Post #288359 7th Dec 2013 11:31am
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martinfiattech



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thank you custom90steve will look in to what you have mentioned

martin.
Post #288474 7th Dec 2013 8:57pm
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Anyone got any audio bits on their Christmas list? Thumbs Up No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #291135 17th Dec 2013 4:26pm
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Merlin



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Can anyone explain how to download the latest software/firmware from the Kenwood site for a DNX4210DAB? I've looked on the Kenwood site but the instructions aren't in a version of English that I know.

Merlin
Post #291175 17th Dec 2013 6:39pm
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custom90



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Update here: http://www.kenwood-electronics.co.uk/suppo...nx4210dab/
Guide here: http://www.kenwood.com/cs/ce/mm/firmware/2...ate_en.pdf
Find the appropriate download here http://www.kenwood.com/cs/ce/mm/firmware/2012/2012b/eng.html
For your model and follow the guide procedure to update.

Thumbs Up You will need a USB memory stick ideally. No Guts, No Glory.
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