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LandRoverAnorak



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Here's another picture that shows the pin arrangement. Interestingly, this picture also shows that there are two versions of this relay - one shorter than the other as shown top right.



The one I've got is the taller one shown in the first picture and top left in this picture. I was led to believe that they are interchangeable, but if both of those you're having trouble with are the shorter version then perhaps that's not the case? Darren

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Ahem..... sad I know but I had to go and check mine ......... (you can imagine what the wife just called me when I said I was off to the garage at 11pm to check a wiper relay!)

I have the larger of the two relays shown in the picture posted by LRA - works fine. Notice that the OP's pic looks like he's got the smaller one of the two, unless it's the angle of the photo.

Maybe I shouldn't be surprised at this given we are talking about LR's here but LandRoverAnorak and I have the same vehicle 2005 Td5 110 XS... LRA replaces the brown relay far right. I replace the Red Lucas relay AMR2341 on the far left and both of us get the result we want..........errrr.......

Dunno about you LRA but I used the tip from others which was to feel each relay for the intermittent 'click'

@Iam1591 - Looks like we may have a bit of Td5 relay russian roulette going on.... Out of interest - which relay did you swap in terms of colour/location etc ? Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless.
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Ha. I never gave it a thought that the OP's pic shows a smaller one Rolling Eyes It's also in a different position to mine, as mine are fixed to the top face of the instrument casing rather than the bottom.

I've just had a quick check of the relay that I removed (in the rain!) and it is, indeed, AMR2341. A sort of reddy-brown colour, I guess Smile Yes, I used the 'feel for the click' method to find the right one. They all seem to be individually mounted, so I guess the specific position depends on the order that the tech picked them up in.

O, the vagaries of Land Rover ownership Rolling Eyes Darren

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Hi All,

The relay I changed was also a ready brown in colour, it was mounted to the top rear of the instrument cluster in the far right hand spot. this could have been moved as I have had an alarm fitted, im definitely removing the correct relay as without either relay present the intermittent wiper will not function. Its almost like the VW99 relay is not receiving the park signal or something, although it works with standard relay fitted.

When the vehicle is stationary the intermittent function works fine, but when using it when moving it sometimes parks the wipers in the wrong position on the screen ( up the middle and at full wipe). I have had the original relay out and have bounced it around a bit with intermittent function going to simulate a bumpy road and all works fine!

Is the park function on the wiper motor adjustable at all?

I will look over the wiring diagram and figure out how and what triggers the relay.

Thanks.
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LandRoverAnorak



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lam1591 wrote:
The relay I changed was also a ready brown in colour, it was mounted to the top rear of the instrument cluster in the far right hand spot. this could have been moved as I have had an alarm fitted,

Yep, sounds like a description of the same position as mine.

If you've got an issue with the park switch then it sounds plausible that it's the cause of your problems. They aren't adjustable, AFAIK, but they are replaceable. Darren

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Hi LandRoverAnorak

I will have a look at the park switch at the weekend and replace if required, hopefully it will fix all of my wiper problems! I will keep ya posted.

Thanks
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Bit of a thread revival .... But for the record the short 99 works fine on mine, which is a 2000 pre face lift model.

Additionally the relay is in the central fuse compartment, over the gearbox tunnel, on these models.
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wow, hell of a thread revival Laughing

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Hi Mark, get on with that rewiring out on your motor instead of playing on the computer seeing as a week off goes by all too quickly!! I must admit since fitting mine I very rarely use the normal "wipers on all the time", if it is constant rain I usually put a short delay on the intermittent wipe, it seems to stop the wipers bouncing when in continuous use and in my eyes they may last a bit longer.
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Had to go to local scrap-dealer today as have a couple of minor modifications on the go. I priced up this relay from Breeze my local VW dealer and when told the price I immediately binned the idea.
Once I'd sourced what I was after at the scrappies I had a flit round the VWs and eventually found one with the relays still fitted. At the princely sum of £1 it must be a Billy Bargain....


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Anybody know if this relay (or similar) is available in a 24volt version?
Cheers! Smile
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K9F



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^^^

Not as far as I'm aware. Do a little digging. Here's the link I used for reference.

http://wiki.seloc.org/a/Wiper_Variable_intermittent If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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K9F, Thanks! I`ll have a search around tonight! Did find that the likes of Paddocks are now selling this relay as a new part with LR part no. Around £30 or so!
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VW wanted over £40. Shocked If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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