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womble



Member Since: 27 Jan 2012
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water leak
hi all.

i've got water leaking into both footwells and soaking my carpets Big Cry

seems to be coming in from the windscreen end of the bonnet....runs down from the top of the pedals and soaks my feet.

recently had a new w'screen rubber so don't think it's that.

rain water not engine.

help Bow down Bow down please
Post #254726 30th Jul 2013 6:16pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
I've just washed mine before and when I got back in to move the 110 I noticed water on the floor.
First I thought it was coming from the pedals, but on closed in inspection I think its coming throught the front bulkhead vents and making its way behind the dash and out.
The curved bit of plastic trim just under the dash was also wet. (to the right of the right drivers knee) 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #254736 30th Jul 2013 6:47pm
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Lou Sparts



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
It,s probably coming in where the windscreen meets the bulkhead the foam strip in between two degrades and lets water in.
Try covering this join with gaffer tape and then running the hose over it to see if it still leaks.If it does,nt then you can seal the join with some type of silicon sealant.
I also keep the gap clear between the windscreen hinge bottom and the gutter under the screen this lets the water run out of the sides of the gutter and not overflowing and running down the bulkhead.
Hope tis makes sense ! 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
Post #254738 30th Jul 2013 6:55pm
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Macpaul



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Loire Blue
It was the foam seal with me.

I masked off above and below the seal and then siliconed over it, ran a thumb over it and took the tape off straight away.

I needed to do the whole width of the seal as otherwise you still have a vulnerable area which can then allow water inside.

That water can then manifest some way from the entry point (via the channel below the windscreen) and be very confusing.

Masking tape as a test is a good idea.
Post #254740 30th Jul 2013 7:09pm
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womble



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wet feet
cheers guys

i will test the foam seal, if it works i'll have to start washing my feet in the shower again Rolling with laughter

respect Thumbs Up
Post #254768 30th Jul 2013 8:06pm
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mk1collector



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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
If its only just started and you've recently had the windscreen rubber replaced I'd be looking there first
Post #254797 30th Jul 2013 9:28pm
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womble



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yeah,i will be having a look at it .

that had crossed my mind
cheers
Post #254844 31st Jul 2013 5:51am
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Was the windscreen seal sealed on fitment and did whoever carried out the job clear the crud build up first?

See this thread in particular the first two posts on page 2.

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic447-15.html

And this thread mine and Fekete's postings on pages 1 & 2.

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic2126.html If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #254891 31st Jul 2013 10:11am
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jimbob7



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Don't use silicon sealant,you may struggle to paint anything again,even the fumes given off will contaminate paintwork over a frighteningly large area,use a proper mastic, Tiger seal, Sikaflex, etc.
Post #254915 31st Jul 2013 11:33am
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ARC99



Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue
I would recommend Sikaflex, I did the joint on the roof of my 110 no more wet right knee of soaked carpets. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
Post #254921 31st Jul 2013 11:55am
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womble



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ok,silkaflex ?is this something i could get from a builders merchant or is it a car product ?

i dont know what the guy used when he fitted the windscreen as i wasn't there.
Post #255509 2nd Aug 2013 4:00am
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
You do not want to use Sikaflex on your windscreen seal. Should you ever require the windscreen out or seal subsequently replaced it will be an absolute nightmare. Google is your friend.....

Sikaflex 291i is a marine grade polyurethane based sealant which in my view is one of the best you can buy. See here:

http://www.cfsnet.co.uk/acatalog/sika291tech.pdf If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #255564 2nd Aug 2013 8:30am
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Lochscape



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Scotland 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Java Black
Water Ingress Manual!!
If you have water leaks search the net for: "Defender Water Ingress" Service Rectification Processes.

I found the manual on another Landy Site

It is a manual showing where most of the leaks come from and the Land Rover rectification procedure.

I had a leak into the front footwell and traced it to the hinge area. Rapid application of Sikaflex stopped the leak. Sika flex works well. My Defender is black as was Sikaflex but take care to avoid covering your paintwork!

About to use the manual again to stop my rear load speaker (Internal!) rusting up for the third time! LOCHSCAPE
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It's on here Wink

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rossy



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Ireland 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey
wurzel wrote:
ok,silkaflex ?is this something i could get from a builders merchant or is it a car product ?

i dont know what the guy used when he fitted the windscreen as i wasn't there.



Any caravan dealer's spares/accessories shop will stock Sikaflex. Until recently most caravans were held together with it.
Post #262625 31st Aug 2013 1:53pm
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