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Norm4n



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Why is it revin between gear change?
2008 tdci

This has only just started to happen, when changing gears the revs don't drop, sounds like a woman learning to drive Very Happy

I also noticed that when in low range the anti-stall isn't working as it was. I.e. the revs are very low whereas usually they are high to prevent a stall. Problem must be connected.

Any ideas??
Post #257571 9th Aug 2013 5:20pm
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william8



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Scotland 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
open bonnet

unplug sensor on top of the clutch piston unit.

enjoy

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Post #257600 9th Aug 2013 7:06pm
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LandRoverAnorak



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If it's just started happenng then it's a fault rather than a 'feature'. It probably is the clutch switch though. Darren

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Post #257608 9th Aug 2013 7:33pm
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ARC99



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue
Mine will run for a couple of months without reving between gear changes then it will start do so, the next day it stops for a couple of months, fault codes checked .............nothings. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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bob neville



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Make sure your brake lights are working - yes there is a connection Thumbs Up

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Post #257722 10th Aug 2013 12:32pm
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landybehr



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bob neville wrote:
Make sure your brake lights are working - yes there is a connection Thumbs Up

Bob


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Just had a look at the wiring diagram. Never expected there to be a connection to the ECU. But it is (2.2TD4 at least). A connection is just "behind" the switch. But non working lights shouldn´t have an effect then.
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bob neville



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On the 2.4 if the brake lights go (especially the fuse) you get high rev holding on gear change. Happened on my 2009 110 when the fuse went - confused everybody for a few hours Thumbs Up

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Post #257803 10th Aug 2013 8:40pm
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Norm4n



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Ok thanks will check tomorrow.

I'm sure it only happens in first and second gear.
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bell-auto-services



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
As said above the brake switch and fuse are important to correct engine running. Below is a diagram showing the switch, fuse and ECM. All related parts must be working correctly and be fully funtional as not to have running quirks and anomalies.

Pete


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Post #257829 10th Aug 2013 9:54pm
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Norm4n



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Any other ideas for this, checked my fuses and no bulbs blown either.

The anti-stall does not work in low range either (I.e. the revs do not increase when in low)

Thanks
Post #259446 17th Aug 2013 7:05pm
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gbmud



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You checked that the brake lights actually work did you, not just that the fuse and bulbs are OK?

Anti-stall does not raise the engine revs, it resists them dropping and the engine thus stalling. The raised tick-over in low range is something to do with preventing the car running too slowly in low gears - which seems a little odd. The raised tick-over must be triggered by a switch on the high/low gear selector.

Chris
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blackwolf



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The 'idle jack' only works in low first, none of the other low range gears.

If you engage low first and drive a short way, then depress the clutch and stop, you should find the revs drop.

Simply engaging low box won't affect the engine revs on tick over.

As noted above, the idle jack is completely different to the anti stall and is provided to prevent excessive engine braking in low first, especially on steep loose descents.

Edit - the ecu uses inputs from the high.low selector shaft switch, the first gear selector, and the clutch pedal switch to operate idle jack.
Post #260531 22nd Aug 2013 11:21am
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Norm4n



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It's now stopped revvin, under it's own accord!

Weird motor car...
Post #261606 27th Aug 2013 11:38am
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D'MARIQUE



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Hmmm...Same stuff here! Shocked Gonna check my lights...(reason sounds wierd) Neutral

Update: yeah, right! The stop lights fuse was the reason. The upper stop light (on the 5th door) - doesn't play any role, but the side lights do:)
I've replaced the fuse & it's ok now! Thanks, mates! Thumbs Up
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2.4 Puma will definitely be sensitive to clutch switch failure and its wiring. If you are not getting gear recognition (which is derived from vehicle speed over engine speed), then you need to look at your vehicle speed input to the ECU. Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.
Post #262779 31st Aug 2013 10:34pm
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