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shaun.mobile

Member Since: 12 Dec 2011
Location: England
Posts: 156

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Fuji White

HELP no headlights.

2011 puma.

Driving back from Manchester late last night, cleared the 50mph zone and the lit section on the M62 and realised I had no headlights

Still had 35 or so miles to go.

The high beam flasher worked but no dip or main beam otherwise.

Checked all the fuses this morning and all ok.

Lights are standard.

Any clues before I ring the dealer?

Amazed that nobody flashed me, the only light I had at the front was the near side sidelight.

30th May 2013 3:12pm

Kev stephenson

Member Since: 27 Feb 2012
Location: Huddersfield
Posts: 56

I had the same a few months ago and mine was the stalk that does the dip to main. There is a small metal contact that connects either dip or high that had melted, take off the column covers and have a look.

Mine is a TD5 but I believe they are the same set up 2005 110 TD5 XS running Alive Stage 1 and a bit and other toys
1996 130 300TDi chip truck for tree surgery business

30th May 2013 3:24pm

NoDo$h

Member Since: 18 Aug 2007
Location: Buried in deer guts in Dorset
Posts: 972

That reminds me. Must wire in a relay to reduce the current on the switch. Here we go again, doing Land Rover's job for them

54 Freelander modded for mud
2008 D3 SE
2010 90 XS SW
1978 88 Series 3 undergoing surgery with a new owner
2007 90 County Truck Cab - gone
2006 D3 SE - gone
2004 Freelander Sport - gay
1999 Disco V8 ES rotted to bits

30th May 2013 3:29pm

bm52

Member Since: 04 Apr 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 2189

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Havana

Sounds silly but check the bulbs as well. I had an odd experience when both dip elements failed together

found that out after I had checked all switches, relays, fuses etc. So it can pay to check the obvious first

BM52

30th May 2013 3:34pm

shaun.mobile

Member Since: 12 Dec 2011
Location: England
Posts: 156

bm52 wrote:
Sounds silly but check the bulbs as well. I had an odd experience when both dip elements failed together
found that out after I had checked all switches, relays, fuses etc. So it can pay to check the obvious first

The main beams work from the stalk on flash (stalk pulled) but not on main beam (stalk pushed) so it can't be the bulbs.

Thanks for the reply though, you still enjoying 4 gears that manage themselves?

30th May 2013 3:59pm

bm52

Member Since: 04 Apr 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 2189

shaun.mobile wrote:
..... you still enjoying 4 gears that manage themselves?

Oh Yes... Only today I went for a little wander along a green lane and then just had to go back the same way

I ma also commuting more so traffic jams are not an issue any more.

Cheers BM52

30th May 2013 4:05pm

WelshGas

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Vale of Glamorgan
Posts: 935

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

See here on this thread. [url] http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic19350....elay[/url]

LANDYWATCH

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http://www.landywatch.co.uk/smf2/index.php

30th May 2013 4:13pm

keith

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 2212

Same happened to me few wks ago . Traced problem to the 3 pin headlight plug ( the one that plugs into the headlight ) the metal clip contacts inside the plastic housing had spread open , crumbled and shorted causing the plastic to melt and no lights . Very poor quality and cheep nasty part .

30th May 2013 9:17pm

kmac

Member Since: 07 Oct 2009
Location: Middlesex
Posts: 1309

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

keith wrote:
Very poor quality and cheep nasty part .

Sadly, same could be said for any number of parts in a Defender....

30th May 2013 9:27pm

shaun.mobile

Member Since: 12 Dec 2011
Location: England
Posts: 156

UPDATE

Had land rover assist out.

Checked fuses, relays, connectors and the main light switch, all seemed to be ok.

Technician diagnosed fault in column switch, off to the dealers for repair.

I have given them a list of other issues to work through;

1. Leak on fuel tank when full.
2. rusty headlamp rings (dealer pointed out that they are a no cost option).
3. Rusty front bumper (apparently this is standard fit to all defenders).
4. Radio interference when aircon kicks in.
5. Rusty rear crossmember.

Now slumming it in a 2013 freelancer with all the toys.

31st May 2013 5:58pm

keith

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 2212

shaun.mobile wrote:
UPDATE

Had land rover assist out.

Checked fuses, relays, connectors and the main light switch, all seemed to be ok.

Technician diagnosed fault in column switch, off to the dealers for repair.

I have given them a list of other issues to work through;

1. Leak on fuel tank when full.
2. rusty headlamp rings (dealer pointed out that they are a no cost option).
3. Rusty front bumper (apparently this is standard fit to all defenders).
4. Radio interference when aircon kicks in.
5. Rusty rear crossmember.

Now slumming it in a 2013 freelancer with all the toys.

oh how it all sounds so familiar. Welcome to the defender club.

31st May 2013 6:18pm

Eduardo

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Región Metropolitana
Posts: 2110

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Too familiar...
I changed this switch 3 times

Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
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31st May 2013 6:37pm

tuesdayfox

Member Since: 23 Jun 2013
Location: Sydney,OZ
Posts: 129

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Zambezi Silver

Hi guys,
just to confirm that all puma defender are fitted with headlight relays now?

they are the R122 relays on the diagram??

THanks
Martin

21st Jan 2014 1:08am

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Martin,
If that were the case, it would have been reported as breaking news all over the forum I think.

Wishful thinking, that would be too much inventive engineering at the end of the current Defender's lifespan.

Draw a line to the here much hoped for supercharged V8 limited edition which some report will be offered as a last edition.... I am afraid if they never could correct the lack of a simple relay for the headlamps, that the chances that they will put engineers on a job to safely shoehorn such a V8 into the Defender engine bay with all the required upgrades to transmission and brakes, etc. as pretty slim/non-existent.

Afraid the headlamp relay remains just an after market job, but as you have seen reported in recent threads, there are options on the market, notably in Holland.

Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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21st Jan 2014 6:53am

driver9

Member Since: 15 Oct 2012
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 111

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

tuesdayfox wrote:
Hi guys,
just to confirm that all puma defender are fitted with headlight relays now?

they are the R122 relays on the diagram??

THanks
Martin

Relay above OBD socket is for headlights according to the workshop manual.

21st Jan 2014 7:19am

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