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big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Montalcino Red

Gearbox is out and on the deck

Well after travelling up to Harrogate show Friday my gearbox decided it didn't want to play anymore and basically has gone clunky in every gear over than fifth

So after a long drive home Sunday after noon well 190miles in fifth Monday morning I set about taking it out , by 2 pm it was on the floor and that's where left it as I had to go to work

Well today I went back and drained the oil to find a caramelised coloured oil not black and not metallic very puzzling

Also while I was there I played about with the input shaft on the clutch end and there seems to be a fair bit of play well up down movement which makes me think the bearing has gone but I will not know for sure until the 3/6 as its of to ashcrofts to find out wether it can be repaired

So what happens if it can't looks like I will be looking for a gearbox that can take the power/torque that I can make fit ?

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

22nd May 2013 4:04pm

borderterrier

Member Since: 09 Dec 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1677

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

How does the standard gearbox cope with the increased torque released with remap?

22nd May 2013 4:43pm

big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

Well as my box is the 3.2 box a standard 2.2/2.4 box won't fit
A standard box will take the extra torque from a remap as most tuners will have allowed the max torque the box is capable of in there maps allowing some sort of safety barrier

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

22nd May 2013 4:51pm

j77nge

Member Since: 24 Jan 2013
Location: Gateshead
Posts: 13

hope you get it fixed with minimal cost.

it was good to talk to you on sunday.

22nd May 2013 4:58pm

big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

No problem mate thanks

was nice to meet a few people

People have to remember the MT 82 is fitted to mustangs although they don't have much luck with it lol

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

22nd May 2013 5:15pm

JeremyJ

Member Since: 16 Nov 2011
Location: Aylesbury
Posts: 1758

Have any of the Mustang boys come up with a stronger box?

22nd May 2013 5:54pm

big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

I can't find anything so far

still looking though 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

22nd May 2013 5:55pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8063

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

sorry to hear about the box. if its a 3.2 box it should be good for it, right oil level? bearings? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

22nd May 2013 8:02pm

big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

It's ok JST I think it's bearing we will see when ashcrofts open it up in a couple of weeks

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

22nd May 2013 8:03pm

big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

Well I have got my self a spare box along with a complete transit lol

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

23rd May 2013 4:13pm

JeremyJ

Member Since: 16 Nov 2011
Location: Aylesbury
Posts: 1758

Thats one way of doing it!

Does that mean you'll have a spare 3.2 for sale?!

23rd May 2013 4:17pm

big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

Possibly

although may build another car and sell the car on ?

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

23rd May 2013 6:05pm

vito115

Member Since: 29 Aug 2012
Location: kent
Posts: 29

What is the difference between the 3.2 & 2.2 gearbox ?

25th May 2013 10:21am

big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

Bell housing is different I'm lead to believe to take a bigger clutch nd fly wheel ?

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

25th May 2013 7:27pm

landybehr

Member Since: 17 Apr 2013
Location: -D-
Posts: 173

and internals are the very same with the 2.4/2.2 <> 3.2 gearboxes?

(BTW: makes me wonder, how the Mustang guys would live with "my" gearbox (i.e. 2.2 Puma). They have a sports car, ought to shift gears as fast as LuckyLuke shooting.

26th May 2013 7:58am

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