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| Killer90 Site Sponsor Member Since: 09 Oct 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 6478   
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8th Apr 2013 9:34pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20650
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Do you still have that Parrot thing?
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8th Apr 2013 10:09pm |
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| barbel jim Member Since: 12 Dec 2012 Location: Northants Posts: 1434 
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10 " subs. They are in sealed enclosures. Wanted the smallest I could which was the decider in the choice of sub. Would have had a pair of focals to match everything else but they are designed for ported enclosures, and are deeper. Prefer sealed subs as more punchy, and you don't get that bluring/farty bass. Oh yes you can feel the bass a mile down the road,that mono amp would happilly run another pair if I wanted !!! Those amps are overkill and a total extravergance but the SQ is unbelievable !
Dynamat stops me looking too much of a Chav though, it contains so much sound inside
Designed the box to be easy in and out. Made 2 brackets that riveted to bulkhead, then a couple of self tappers hold it in situ. 2 wire's out the amp and out it pops! Mine has to work for a living too. |
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8th Apr 2013 11:11pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20650
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Do you have one of those Vibe quick release connector type things then? Or something you made yourself?
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9th Apr 2013 10:13am |
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| barbel jim Member Since: 12 Dec 2012 Location: Northants Posts: 1434
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No Quick release. The amps use good old fashioned gold Allen bolts. Soldered up the wires going into connector, Simples
. You can get those connectors to fit in the sub box, but I don't like them. 3/4" MDF holds the sound , then you put in a piece of 2mm plastic. I just hard wired my box and sealed the wires in . |
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9th Apr 2013 12:38pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20650
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I get what you've done.
I know the general thinking of heavy bass is for Chavs but using proper kit and in the correct way you cannot beat it. After all they could never afford anything other than Halfrauds el cheapo stuff. Premium all the way for me.
They often never even set it up right and just sounds like air movement. Oh and then their car catces fire though improper wiring.  TheThunder Rollsπ¬π§πΊπΈ
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9th Apr 2013 3:13pm |
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| barbel jim Member Since: 12 Dec 2012 Location: Northants Posts: 1434
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Ultimately Steve its all down to personal taste. We all have a different ear and you have to build a system to suit you. Sometimes premium is not always better, but invariably it is. Setting it up correctly is the secret. The dynamat is one of the most important upgrades with our vehicles. Not just to keep noise out, but in reality it improves the acoustics beyond recognition. I find you have to play around a bit too. I should have gone with my instinct in the first place and just brought the Focals. Would have saved alot of time.  Having said that by doing it in stages you appreciate what you have , and need to improve. I tried a few ideas to avoid the sub box, but you can only get that rounded sound from moving air, which the little active boxes can't. I think its because its obvious in your face and not hidden that bothers me. If It wasn't a workhorse, I would have trimmed the box in carpet, and covered over the subs, giving a stealth look, But that won't last long throwing kit into the back |
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9th Apr 2013 3:57pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20650
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Very true. My issue is that I use the rear for hay bales practically very week so pulling subs out that often would be a chore and no doubt may cause damage anyway and in the time in-between the dogs are in there and need the rooms so again not going to work. I am quite happy with my single sub though but I also agree that Dynamatting is a good idea I need to do that in time. As you say a step at a time you can really concentrate then and get things right and perfected first time. Then when finally completed you can step back and enjoy.
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9th Apr 2013 4:04pm |
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| barbel jim Member Since: 12 Dec 2012 Location: Northants Posts: 1434
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Be nice if you get it perfect first time. I thought that would happen with the 6x9's but it just started me off !!!
 I have enjoyed it though, bored the wife and ended up with a really sweet sounding 90  Truth is until you get it all in, wired and working, your not too sure how it will sound  With me its all about clarity, and I have that in spades, with far too much available volume.
Oh and yeah I not too sure if the dog appreciates the subs..... But they are supposed to be like their owners, so she's a proper bass head. Big Fish, Little Fish, Aluminium Box |
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9th Apr 2013 4:17pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20650
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Same with me I usually use around the 12 mark all the time. And that is in a 0 - 35 range.  I find around that is about right for normal use without going deaf and also having a convocation at the same time. If I'm on my own perhaps 13 or 14. 16 and up is nuts. TheThunder Rollsπ¬π§πΊπΈ
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9th Apr 2013 4:37pm |
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| taffrican Member Since: 14 Jan 2011 Location: Living room Posts: 624  
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Steve, I could use some advise please on an amp/sub/speakers install, this is my first time ever when it comes down to amps and ICE so be gentle with me
I recently acquired an amp from "Landlord" (another member here) it is a Kenwood KAC 849, so for that I blindly went in search for a subwoofer and ended up with one of these (for next to nothing) http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_8335_P...html#tabs.
I then ordered a pair of these for the front speakers : Kenwood kfc-e1064, after seeing you recommended them to another chap here
I already have, a pair of kenwood kfc-6979ie 6x9 3 way speakers which are also new old stock. All of this will be coming off my headunit which is one of these http://www.kenwood-electronics.co.uk/produ...-DAB4551U/ I have trawled the web looking for hints, tips and advise on whether this kit will match and seeing as some of the stuff is discontinued I am struggling to find answers. The sub is brand new old stock, the radio is fairly new as its been in my 90 for the past year, front speakers obviously brand new, the 6x9's are in perfect condition and the amp looks good (tho' not tested) What I would like to know from an expert like yourself is, should I have the fire brigade on standby?, am I gonna blow this amp or sub? I know the amp should be 50% bigger than the sub but have I gone too big? is this just one big disaster just waiting to happen?
Thanks for any advise you can offer and sorry for all the links, but they will give you better info than I could. Cheers Mike Optimists say the glass is half full..
Pessimists say the glass is half empty.. Engineers say the glass is twice the size it needs to be! |
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10th Apr 2013 2:38am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20650
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Hi Mike,
Sorry for the later reply I somehow missed your post. RMS power of the Amp should match the Sub give or take a 5% rough estimate of leeway IMO for example... My Sub is 450w RMS and Amp is 500w RMS this is fine so long as I don't turn up the Amp to high volumes permanently. (Not likely)
RMS Wattage = Constant power input or output. Peak = The peak wattage either the Amp output or the Sub input. The jist is the Amp & Sub power ratings needs to more or less match if it's a single mono Amp. Also the correct prescribed fuse rating for the Primary power feed is also critical for safety's sake. It's difficult for me to advise without having the actual details in-front of me what is suitable. I notice you are not too far from myself a neighbouring county in fact so if you like I could take a look or perhaps give you a hand if you wanted? Feel free to drop me a "PM" if you'd like any further help / advice. Steve TheThunder Rollsπ¬π§πΊπΈ
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10th Apr 2013 9:48pm |
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| taffrican Member Since: 14 Jan 2011 Location: Living room Posts: 624
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Hi Steve, thanks for your reply, I just re-read my post and the one thing I forgot to include was any spec. on the amp, here is a pdf, http://manual.kenwood.com/files/B64-1969-00.pdf which will give all the req info.
Many thanks for your offer of assistance, I really appreciate it, the last thing I would want to do is impose on your time other than forum time
I am planning on installing everything in the next couple of days and it will be done in stages as I have to build the sub into a box I already have in the back. Cheers Mike Optimists say the glass is half full..
Pessimists say the glass is half empty.. Engineers say the glass is twice the size it needs to be! |
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10th Apr 2013 11:28pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20650
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Okay, Had a look at the details and the Sub is actually higher power rated than the Amp which isn't too much of a problem although you my find you need to adjust the settings on the Amp a little to compensate. Also I assume you were intending to use the Amp solely to power the Sub? As ideally the 6x9's should be Amped too but you would need another lower rated Amp to do this as running Kenwood 6x9's is a bit much for a HU as it only has 4x 50w outputs as a rule and will make it run very hot.
Also where were you thinking of fitting your speakers and kit in relation to the Defender? TheThunder Rollsπ¬π§πΊπΈ
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11th Apr 2013 9:47am |
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