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Natlas

Member Since: 20 Mar 2013
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 460

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

High Revs for ~ 2 secs+ when changing gear foot off throttle

My 2.2 has done just over 100 miles. On it's first proper outing today I noticed that the revs don't drop down as quickly as you would expect in between gear changes, the revs drop a little, then park themselves at about 2K, before finally deciding to drop down to tickover level.
I believe this is the cause of crunchy gear changes unless you change very slowly, not to mention just generally screwing up the way you want to drive. I think I have seen reference to this behavious elsewhere on this site but I can't find it so am starting this new post in the hope that someone can explain and hopefully advise a cure for this.
Many thanks. John.

28th Mar 2013 4:10pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

This thread perhaps......

It seems that all/most 2.2s are like this. A remap would undoubtedly cure this trait!

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic18451.html?highlight=revs If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

28th Mar 2013 4:25pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17351

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Could be the clutch pedal switch not working, but I seem to recall someone posting that this is normal on a 2.2.

If you disconnect the clutch switch and it makes no difference you've found your culprit.

28th Mar 2013 4:29pm

Natlas

Member Since: 20 Mar 2013
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 460

Thanks K9 and Blackwolf - what on earth do we need a switch on our clutch for?

28th Mar 2013 5:01pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17351

Well, I suppose to stop the engine management system from doing what yours is doing!

Seriously though I do agree with you. I often reminisce about the old days when just about anything could be fixed with a minimal toolkit (and no computer!) at the roadside but then I recall how much was spent doing this. Modern cars may be absurdly complex - ours less than most - but in general they are so much more reliable.

28th Mar 2013 6:36pm

Happyoldgit

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

Seems normal, as I said in another thread..

Quote:
I did not like the rev hold on the previous 2.2 I had on test for a few days but this time instead of driving it like I usually drive a Defender with slow changes I found that snicking the gears in quickly resulted in a much smoother change.

Steve.
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Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

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28th Mar 2013 10:07pm

Staftly

Member Since: 06 Jul 2012
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 55

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey

Hi John

Have exactly the same issue with my 1y/o utility XS. Thinking about a remap by BAS to cure this and other issues. If this clutch pedal switch is the problem, it may change my mind, and save me a few quid to boot. Can anyone tell me where I can find, and detatch, this switch?

Thanks. Staftly

29th Mar 2013 1:27am

Natlas

Member Since: 20 Mar 2013
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 460

hi Staftly,
If you have a remap, please let me know how it goes. I guess my only concern with that would be the possible effect on the warranty.
Thanks, John.

29th Mar 2013 5:06pm

Dieselhead

Member Since: 21 Oct 2012
Location: Pulborough. West Sussex
Posts: 552

I had this prob when I brought my 08 2.4. The owner had not used it for a month or two as he did not want it to get dirty while trying to sell it.

I had it plugged up & no faults found.

After a week or 2 of use it cleared & alls been fine since

Maybe yours just needs a good run to get bedded in??

You cant get a remap for 2.2 yet. Unless its been cracked yet Chris

2008 XS 110 2.4 Utility. Tonga Green
1953 Series 1 for restoration
1983 Mini Mayfair
2004 VW T5 Camper
2008 Diahatsu Sirion. Thats hers
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29th Mar 2013 7:24pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20299

Dieselhead wrote:

After a week or 2 of use it cleared & alls been fine since

Maybe yours just needs a good run to get bedded in??

Mine was like that originally as it had so very little use and to boot only 12k on the clock as well. Very "sticky" gear changes and very little smoothness but went with use. A service can help no end too.. ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️

29th Mar 2013 7:48pm

Plodster

Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 22

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Baltic Blue

I've done a little under 700 miles in my 2.2 and must say the rev holding function is a little annoying but most acute in low box. I've been inclined to wait a week or so to see how it settles as its very annoying when it's trying to guess your next rev range. Hmmmm, thats not mud....

Current:
Defender 110 HD Utility (Special Vehicles)
Freelander 2 HSE
BMW E23 735i

Ex:
2013 Defender 90 2.2
1998 Discovery 300TDi
1972 Series II 2.25
1980 Series III 2.25

29th Mar 2013 8:48pm

5wh

Member Since: 01 Jan 2011
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 37

2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

I had this with my 2.4 a few weeks ago.bloody annoying.in the end I traced it to a blown brake light fuse,replaced the fuse and all is well again now. 2009 SVX 90 Station Wagon

29th Mar 2013 10:56pm

Natlas

Member Since: 20 Mar 2013
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 460

Hi 5wh. Brake light fuse? that's a weird connection, but there again, knowing how some cars behave you never know. I have checked my brake lights though and they do work OK so therefore I assume their fuse must also be OK, but I'll keep this one in the memory bank just in case. Thanks.

30th Mar 2013 10:17am

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
Posts: 1789

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green

How much higher than the next gear revs does it go, it should drop to the next gear revs, if you wait it should drop all the way. I find it makes for a very smooth up change as the transmission revs are matched with the engine revs as you let the clutch back in, I bet it saves alot of clutch wear as well Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
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30th Mar 2013 10:24am

Natlas

Member Since: 20 Mar 2013
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 460

Hi Willy, So you think that once you get used to it, this feature can actually be a positive thing?

30th Mar 2013 10:29am

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