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johnnyturbo2002

Member Since: 21 May 2009
Location: Poniente Granadino
Posts: 371

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Java Black

2 stroke oil adding

Hi,
Are the majority of you guys still using and if so/not any adverse effects?
Regular two stroke right? The kind for chainsaws and such?
Tanks a bunch!
Jt 2008 Defender 110 60 year Edition (sold unfortunately)
IN the hunt for another Puma for the wifey!
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12th Feb 2013 9:53am

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Why the question? Have you engine problems which you think may be resolved by using 2SO? I have never used 2SO in my Puma, and never had any problems, but can tell you that when I switched away from supermarket fuels to using almost exclusively BP Ultimate Diesel, the engine runs much, much smoother

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12th Feb 2013 10:00am

Theater

Member Since: 27 Sep 2010
Location: Pisa Italy
Posts: 514

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Galway Green

.......... 250/300 Cl of 2 stroke oil "Jaso FC " on every full fuel .

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12th Feb 2013 10:36am

johnnyturbo2002

Member Since: 21 May 2009
Location: Poniente Granadino
Posts: 371

Eric,
No reason really, just in winter, because of fuel differences, it sounds a bit different...still runs super,
Cheers, 2008 Defender 110 60 year Edition (sold unfortunately)
IN the hunt for another Puma for the wifey!
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12th Feb 2013 1:30pm

ZeDefender

Member Since: 15 Sep 2011
Location: Munich
Posts: 4731

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Baltic Blue

Aral (BP) fuel here is okay but 250ml of Actevo every other tank quietens my Puma engine in winter.
Some members have been using it for years with no adverse effects, so it's safe to try it out and decide yourself

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12th Feb 2013 1:43pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
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johnnyturbo2002 wrote:
Eric,
No reason really, just in winter, because of fuel differences, it sounds a bit different...still runs super,
Cheers,

What fuel do you normally use?

Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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12th Feb 2013 1:44pm

lrmaniac

Member Since: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Lisboa
Posts: 762

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green

Theater wrote:
.......... 250/300 Cl of 2 stroke oil "Jaso FC " on every full fuel .

Jaso FB... I read....and use....

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12th Feb 2013 2:05pm

SteveT247

Member Since: 21 Feb 2011
Location: Central
Posts: 491

2002 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey

I used to put in 2SO (Td5, not Puma) but in all honesty couldn't really tell much, (if any) difference to not putting any in. However, I have found a noticeable difference using Millers Eco Max additive though, both in quietness of the engine and performance. It's more expensive to buy than 2SO (roughly twice the price) but with a mix ratio of 1:1000 as opposed to 1:200 probably works out cheaper. Doesn't answer your question on 2SO I know, but worth considering as an alternative.

12th Feb 2013 2:19pm

pannawonica

Member Since: 21 Nov 2010
Location: Clackline Western Australia
Posts: 568

I have used 2SO FC ( Mineral) now for 25K miles. I have found that it make the engine sound more refined. I have heard that the reduction in sulfur 5o ppm and the loss of its lubrication properties has caused premature fuel pump failure. Diesel is oil and 2SO is just a more refined product with anti carbon deposit properties.

13th Feb 2013 4:15am

bvandyk

Member Since: 03 Sep 2012
Location: South Africa
Posts: 49

Does adding 2 stroke oil not increase the sulphur content of the diesel, and because of that reduces your service interval?

13th Feb 2013 2:16pm

sven

Member Since: 29 Dec 2011
Location: Oslo
Posts: 80

2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SVX Soft Top Santorini Black

Have tried adding 2-stroke oil over a period and there´s no change whatsoever in engine noise.

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13th Feb 2013 8:51pm

Shax

Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
Location: London
Posts: 391

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

I bought a bottle of the Millers additive yesterday.... Too soon to say if it makes any difference, but, hey, no harm trying!
I did try 2SO about 18 months back, and I think my engine was too tight to notice any difference, plus it wasn't BAS'd!! 37K and a remap may make things more obvious.. ... ,-------,
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13th Feb 2013 10:21pm

bvandyk

Member Since: 03 Sep 2012
Location: South Africa
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On my previous Defender, a TD5 with 250000km on at that stage it made a massive difference. The engine was a lot smoother.

Now on my Puma with 40000km on when I first tried it, I could feel and hear absolutely no difference.

So I think a lot of it got to do with the condition and age of the engine. But it's not all about feeling and hearing a difference. It's about getting everything more reliable in the long term.
That being said, I don't add 2SO to every tank on the Puma anymore. About every 4th tank. On the TD5 I used it with every single tank.

14th Feb 2013 6:22am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
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2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

I use it on every 2nd tank on my Puma, it runs a bit smoother, and the most telling sign is that the EGR is squeaky clean --
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14th Feb 2013 7:15am

robharvey

Member Since: 14 Dec 2009
Location: Durban
Posts: 86

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Naks wrote:
I use it on every 2nd tank on my Puma, it runs a bit smoother, and the most telling sign is that the EGR is squeaky clean

Oddly enough the only time I added 2so my EGR went for a ball and had to be replaced. My new EGR is squeaky clean running without 2so for the last 60k.

14th Feb 2013 8:04am

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