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foiloman



Member Since: 23 Dec 2008
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Heated Rear Window
The top two bars/elements on the rear window heater do not warm up.

Is this normal as the top part of the window remains frozen even though there seem to be heating elements below the frost?

08 Defender 110 XS.

Cheers... 2.4 110 XS
Post #20617 23rd Dec 2009 5:06pm
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fekete



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
Take it to the dealer and get it replaced, they should all work Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #20618 23rd Dec 2009 5:21pm
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The Boy



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
It's a pity but quite normal Rolling Eyes

My 07 had a new window because of the top three bars were nackered and I have just had a new one in the 09 about three weeks ago Rolling Eyes
Post #20619 23rd Dec 2009 6:06pm
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alantd



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
There's a thread on this somewhere. It is quite common but is also a fault - get the dealer to change it.

My front screen had a strip right in front of my face that wasn't working. The dealer "did some tests" and couldn't demonstrate the issue (bear in mind it was minus 3 outside - breathing over the windscreen would have done it Banging Head)

Only way to prove it then was to take these photos to show them that I hadn't made it up.



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Post #20623 23rd Dec 2009 7:39pm
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dgardel



Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
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The problem for the rear heated glass is the 3rd stop tail rubber.

probably it release rubber solvent that "eat" the heated element

Dealer changed me the rear windows two times.

Now I cutted (below) the rubber and make same sockets (where are 90° tracks curves) for avoid contacts from the heating tracks and the rubber.

Now the problem seems solved... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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Post #20640 24th Dec 2009 1:26am
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Grockle



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it's the high level stop light the cover this rubs on the element and cuts through it,when you have had it replaced, cover the elements with insulating tape to stop it happening again 2.4 90 XS
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Post #20641 24th Dec 2009 7:35am
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holdingpoint



Member Since: 18 Aug 2009
Location: Como Italy
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Italy 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Hi all!

Finally I discovered someone that have the same my problem, it's the third rear window that
they have changed me in Land Rover without solve the problem.

@GROCKLE Is possible for you to post a pictures showing the way to follow to fix the problem, I don't really understood readin. If is possible I will really appreciate, thanks in advance.
Post #20963 30th Dec 2009 9:53pm
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Grockle



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holdingpoint wrote:
Hi all!

Finally I discovered someone that have the same my problem, it's the third rear window that
they have changed me in Land Rover without solve the problem.

@GROCKLE Is possible for you to post a pictures showing the way to follow to fix the problem, I don't really understood readin. If is possible I will really appreciate, thanks in advance.


remove the high level brake light cover,look for rubbing marks on the heating elements,if you can see were the heater wires are broken(worn through)you need a heated window repair kit,you mask off either side of the 'break'with the masking tape supplied in the kit,then with the solution in the bottle(looks like clear nail varnish)paint on over the break to all damaged areas,leave to dry, remove the masking tape,then cover the break areas with insulation tape to stop it happening again.

I hope you can understand. 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.
Post #20972 31st Dec 2009 8:48am
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holdingpoint



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Ok I understand Thumbs Up thank you
Post #20979 31st Dec 2009 11:54am
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dgardel



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holdingpoint wrote:
Hi all!

Finally I discovered someone that have the same my problem, it's the third rear window that
they have changed me in Land Rover without solve the problem.

@GROCKLE Is possible for you to post a pictures showing the way to follow to fix the problem, I don't really understood readin. If is possible I will really appreciate, thanks in advance.


Holding,

devi togliere lo stop posteriore e vedrai dove la gomma tocca i filamenti.

La gomma rilascia, probabilmente, dei solventi, che letteralmente mangiano le piste.

io ho scavato la gomma con il drummel in modo che la gomma non sia in contatto con le piste e, fino ad ora, il mio III vetro non crea più problemi....

avevo pensato anch'io al nastro ma non so come si comporti la colla con la lega delle piste..... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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Post #20981 31st Dec 2009 12:56pm
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holdingpoint



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Italy 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Grande dgartel! grazie Thumbs Up

Ma tu come gomma intendi solo la guarnizione oppure anche quella specie di gomma parte integrante del vetro, quella intorno allo stop (come una grechetta a pallini)?
Post #20982 31st Dec 2009 2:24pm
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dgardel



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Quella "trapezoidale", sviti le due vitine del coperchio, sotto troverai 2 bulloncini M8.

prima togli i due faston dello stop (senza sforzare troppo sul vetro, aiutati con un cacciavite), poi svita i due bulloncini ed estrai tutto....

se lo smonti è semplice, è più difficile da scrivere che fare....

la "gomma" incriminata è il n° 5

i "6" rimangono incollati al vetro.......




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Heated windows? Confused 

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Post #21008 31st Dec 2009 8:49pm
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dgardel



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sorry Mates,

I explained to my compatriot that is the central stop lamp rubber (5) (in my case) that probably, release solvent.

this solvent had "vanished" the heater elements.

I cut and modified the rubber.

Now the heater elements do not "touch" the rubber

and after 3 rear screen this one " continue" to work fine Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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Post #21010 31st Dec 2009 9:12pm
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holdingpoint



Member Since: 18 Aug 2009
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Italy 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Thanks again for the complete explanation!
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