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| Dieselhead Member Since: 21 Oct 2012 Location: Pulborough. West Sussex Posts: 552  |
I had this problem on the one at work. Only done 18k & its a 07 plate
I ended up taking the gearbox out & sending it off. It came back & they said a selector had got stuck between 1st & Reverse. They took it apart & checked everything & put it back together & its been fine since 
Put a clutch in it too as the springs looked like they were going fall out 
Sounds to me you have got the same problem  Chris
2008 XS 110 2.4 Utility. Tonga Green 1953 Series 1 for restoration 1983 Mini Mayfair 2004 VW T5 Camper 2008 Diahatsu Sirion. Thats hers Classic Bolens Garden Tractors |
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19th Dec 2012 9:06pm |
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| ashtrans Site Sponsor Member Since: 08 Nov 2008 Location: Harpenden Posts: 257 
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This can be fixed in the car,
At the rear left corner of the gearbox you will see 2 detent plugs, one vertical and one horizontal, Using a small chisel, tap out the vertical one, it has a mushroom head to hit on and is an interference fit, Once out, poke a small screwdriver into the hole and lever the selector rail to the front of the car about 5mm, Have a front wheel up and keep rocking it so you know when you are back in neutral, Then either put the depend back in or better still replace it with the later one which has a stronger spring, will post the part number tomorrow, Dave Dave |
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19th Dec 2012 10:12pm |
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| Rakthi Member Since: 30 Nov 2012 Location: Where the cats are Posts: 200 
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There is a service bulletin out on that issue - Might affect your car, supposed to fall under warranty.
I copied this from TOPIx. TECHNICAL BULLETIN LTB00311v2 16 MAR 2012 © Land Rover All rights reserved. This reissue replaces all previous versions. Please destroy all previous versions. Only refer to the electronic version of this TSB in TOPIx. This bulletin supersedes TSB LTB00311/2010 dated 17 AUG 2010, which should either be destroyed or clearly marked to show it is no longer valid (e.g. with a line across the page). Only refer to the electronic version of this TSB in TOPIx. SECTION: 308-03 Transmission Stuck In First, Second or Reverse Gear AFFECTED VEHICLE RANGE: Defender (LD) Model Year: 2007-2011 VIN: 7A732615 - BA404250 MARKETS: All Except NAS CONDITION SUMMARY: Situation: The customer may report that the transmission is stuck in first, second or reverse gear. This version has been issued for a change to the VIN range and Model year. Cause: Mainshaft rail deflection during a high side load during gear selection. Suggested Customer Concern Code - P83. Action: Should a customer express concern, install a new transmission selector lever kit. Follow the Service Instruction outlined below. |
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20th Dec 2012 8:45am |
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| Dieselhead Member Since: 21 Oct 2012 Location: Pulborough. West Sussex Posts: 552 |
This is interesting. Wished we had known this before we took box out & we would have tried 
But still the clutch was faulty You never know it may happen to my puma next Chris 2008 XS 110 2.4 Utility. Tonga Green 1953 Series 1 for restoration 1983 Mini Mayfair 2004 VW T5 Camper 2008 Diahatsu Sirion. Thats hers Classic Bolens Garden Tractors |
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20th Dec 2012 6:33pm |
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| Defender Singh Member Since: 29 Jun 2015 Location: West mids Posts: 58 
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Hi ash trans I've had a problem where the defender is stuck in first....ive read a few threads and solved the problem,the car is no longer stuck,it is selecting all gears ok.
Is there a part number for the replacement detent plugs are they tapped in with a hammer? as there is no thread? also is there any other parts which can be fitted while apart?Which lube shall i use on all moving parts thanks and regards Bill. |
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3rd Jan 2016 1:23pm |
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| Tribord Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: France Posts: 220  
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This has just happened to me - stuck in first gear. Puma 2011.
Does anyone have a photo of the detent plug I need to remove? I have removed the gearsticks/gaiters and pulled up the plastic tunnel housing to expose the back top and left side of the gearbox (btw, do you need to remove the handbrake lever to take the housing off completely?) - but I don't see anything with a mushroom head that looks like it could be removed with a chisel. |
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13th Jan 2016 5:17pm |
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| ashtrans Site Sponsor Member Since: 08 Nov 2008 Location: Harpenden Posts: 257
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The later ones have no mushroom head, they are black and knock in flush, to remove you have to drill and use a slide hammer Dave
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13th Jan 2016 7:47pm |
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| Stiff1 Member Since: 09 Dec 2014 Location: Cornwall Posts: 596 
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That bulletin has me thinking... are these sort of things only applicable (ie free) during the warranty period and is there a way of finding out if your car has had all the recalls and such like?
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13th Jan 2016 9:03pm |
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| Tribord Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: France Posts: 220
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Oh that is a pity. If I have to drill, do you know what the replacement part number is? In the meantime I will need to go and find a slide hammer. Many thanks |
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13th Jan 2016 9:32pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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14th Jan 2016 12:00am |
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| Tribord Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: France Posts: 220
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Thanks for the help. I had to dig through the snow to get to the Defender this morning..not the best time to be working outside..
I'm not sure how thick the detent plugs are, but I am guessing I probably won't be able to re-use after drilling, so I see there is a special tool that means no drilling and hopefully also able to re-use the plug. This is the tool:https://jlrequipment.service-solutions.com...mVID=47649 BUT I don't seem to be able to buy from that site. To register you need to be a registered business. Does anyone know where I can get these special tools? Thanks. |
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16th Jan 2016 12:57pm |
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| ashtrans Site Sponsor Member Since: 08 Nov 2008 Location: Harpenden Posts: 257
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This tool will only work with the early mushroom head type Dave
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16th Jan 2016 5:42pm |
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| dudley472 Member Since: 15 Nov 2012 Location: wolverhampton Posts: 96 
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I had this problem a couple of years ago, a guy from the dealership came out wrestled with the gear lever for a couple of minutes and sorted it, not had the problem since, that was 25k miles ago,....
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17th Jan 2016 4:57pm |
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| Tribord Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: France Posts: 220
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I didn't have the tools to fix this and it was cold with plenty of snow - so the decision to take to a local garage was easy, because I thought it would be a quick job. Well, that was 5 weeks ago and I still don't have it back!
They couldn't get it out of gear with the gearbox in place, so they took it out, opened it up and freed it (not sure exactly what they did). They refitted the gearbox, put it in reverse to drive off the ramp and then after 5 metres the gear was completely blocked again. So they have taken it out again and will open it up tomorrow, but I think they are a bit confused as how to fix. It is an independent garage with a fair bit of Defender and other 4x4 experience, although I think mostly pre-Puma. They described my gearbox as a 'gadget' and suggested I trade it in for an older defender. I am hoping there is a simpler way to fix! Does anyone have any suggestions of tips that could help point the garage in the right direction please? |
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23rd Mar 2016 6:50pm |
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