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| Killer90 Site Sponsor Member Since: 09 Oct 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 6478   
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steering guard, diff guards and fuel tank guard are the most obvious bits mate
 and yer have it all in black would look nice seen a few like that CSK Automotive
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8th Dec 2012 8:51pm |
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| SteveS Member Since: 05 Oct 2010 Location: Devon & Berkshire Posts: 388  
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I would get a fuel cooler guard - it is quite exposed on the TDCi
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8th Dec 2012 11:35pm |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015  
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I think there is something to decide first........ Are you going to be using your truck in anger??
If you are, then I wouldn't powder coat any of it. If you actually either hit a rock, or slide over something the paint/ coating will come straight off and make it look terrible. Need for Puma: Steering guard (as with all 4x4s). Front Diff guard. Fuel cooler guard. If you can afford it: Rear Diff guard. Transmission guard. Tank guard. Also consider: Rock/ tree sliders. I use mine off-road on a daily basis, and I have the folowing: 1. TJM front bumper which protects to steering guard. 2. Mantec Steering guard (alloy with steel reienforcement) 3. Southdown front diff/ axle guard which fits perfectly in line with the steering guard. 4. D44 Fuel cooler guard and transmission guard as out here there are loads of rocks that stick out and can ruin your day. 5. Mantec fuel tank guard for the same reason as above. 6. Rock sliders- these have saved my doors and bodywork more than a few times. I am yet to fit a rear diff guard- it is something on my list of things to do but keep bypassing it for more cool things 
I guess I am trying to say- think it through and work out exactly what you want it all to do before buying/ modifying. Glyn   |
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9th Dec 2012 4:36pm |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015
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Further to above,
Diff guards...... don't go cheap. Make sure you get something decent like Southdown, Qt, Equipe etc (I am sure the sponsors can come up with a few more). The type that clap onto the diff are more trouble than good. Here is a terrible pictures of what mine looks like underneath (old picture of when I had the Mantec bumper), but it gives you ideas: 
Glyn :sheep:
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9th Dec 2012 4:45pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20294
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Glyn - same as me fuel cooler guard wise. Also had the D44 transmission guard in mind to get for a while now along with QT front ant rear diff guards.
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9th Dec 2012 4:52pm |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015
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Another thing I have just thought about.
I think it is Entreq that do a transmission/ fuel cooler guard- it is like a belly plate. I think this could be a better alternative to the D44 setup. Every time I look at the transmission guard it makes me think about welding another piece of steel to the back of it sloping in an upwards direction. I could see the guard being very unhelpful (almost like an anchor) if you get stuck on a rock and need to be recovered backwards. But then again, I have had this setup for the past 3 years without the slightest problem. Glyn |
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9th Dec 2012 4:57pm |
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| Killer90 Site Sponsor Member Since: 09 Oct 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 6478
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CSK Diff guards soon so hold on
along with some lovely rock sliders and some branded CSK steering guards
Click image to enlarge Sliders with tree bars in square steel powder coated and then coated with a H/D grip coat  CSK Automotive
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9th Dec 2012 5:49pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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If you want underbody protection for its good looks yes you can have it powder coated.
Use the underbody protection for what it is intended to be use then it is likely to get scratched and damaged and peel off. It could soon look a mess if used as intended. The quality of the powder coating would also be important What other choices are there? Aluminium, or steel which is either electroplated or hot dipped galvanised. Aluminium is lighter then steel and not as robust so either 8 or 10 mm Ali plate is used compared to 6 mm steel plate. Natural aluminium will tarnish when exposed to the elements. Naked steel will rust Electroplated steel has to pass a 300 hour (???) salt test. Looks smoother then hot dip galv which has to pass a 3000 hour (???) salt test. Hot dip galv can have 'snots' etc but will give much more resistance to damage. Electro plated galv can peel off when damaged and rust creeps underneath it. Hot dip galv can 'self heal' to minor damage. Good hot dip galv takes a lot of punishment. Powder coating on naked steel, if the coating is damaged then rust can make it peel off and can quickly look a mess Powder coat hot dip galv then if damaged will not rust. So consider carefully what you require from your underbody protection. Brendan |
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9th Dec 2012 6:35pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2637 
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I would only ever have hot-dip galvanised under-body protection.
Anything else will just fall off at the first rock. Galv will wear off too (slowly), but is sacrificial to an extent so the resulting corrosion is far reduced. And easy enough to have it re-dipped. |
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9th Dec 2012 7:00pm |
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| Ric Member Since: 03 Nov 2012 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 209
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Thanks for all the advice guys, really appreciated.
I intend to do lots of green laneing, got a north yorkshire moors trip booked in soon to start off with. it already gets used for work, towing, carrying tools etc. plus my 5yr loves it (refers to it as the rescue truck) so its the family bus too. It won't be be doing pay and play quarry type driving, as I still want to keep it tidy and dent free 
The guards are for a little piece of mind while green laneing, and a little bling too, as its the cooling looking car I've had. On the black colour choice subject, I just thought it'll look cool with everything else been black. If it gets damaged / scratched then at least it's done it's job, and I could get it re-done periodically, Any colour will do really if the products good  its only a car! |
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9th Dec 2012 10:45pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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We have had a steering guard bash plate black powder coated for a customer before now.
Think it was the Ali version. The steel frame work was as per normal. So it is quite possible but we have to warn customers about the potential damage to the coating. Brendan |
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10th Dec 2012 8:57am |
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| Ric Member Since: 03 Nov 2012 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 209
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who supplies mantec at good prices its only a car!
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11th Dec 2012 12:31am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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We supply Entreq and Safari Equipe gear. The Safari Equipe factory is 2 miles away from us.
Probably best prices for Mantec gear is from Barry at Flatdog Derrick at LRS is probably best for COR4 gear. Brendan |
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11th Dec 2012 12:54am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8006  
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i run Southdown bumpers, steering guards and front axle drag link/diff guard and sills on my 110 and tdi hardtop 90. 110 also runs a d44 fuel cooler guard (which i thought wasn't needed until i ripped on of the pipes off the cooler prior to fitting it when driving through some/over some brush.. )
my other 90 run a Southdown winch bumper, Southdown steering guard and Gwyn Lewis drag link guard with Southdown weld on diff pan front and Southdown rear diff bolt on gurad. Trayback runs Southdown steering guard, custom winch bumper, HD diff pans with custom Gwyn Lewis drag link protection. latter two also run Sumo Extreme drag and track rods. all hot dip coated and work very well. one thing not mentioned is track rod protection. i think this is the most vulnerable bit under the vehicle and bent track rods are a pain to drive with....... options are to encase it to protect it in something like Gwyn Lewis style guard or the Southdown full axle guard (as shown in 1st pic) or/and upgrade it to Sumo bars or similar and then fit a diff guard that incorporates some form of wrap around protection to help keep it in place! Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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11th Dec 2012 7:18am |
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