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Killer90 Site Sponsor Member Since: 09 Oct 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 6478 |
my new steering guard is pics to follow hopefully tonight CSK Automotive www.cskautomotive.co.uk Like us on Facebook - www.facebook.com/csklr Follow us on Instagram - @cskautomotive |
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14th Dec 2012 1:42pm |
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Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015 |
I will have to disagree with that. HD/ Sumo bars are great (I had a set on my Disco) but if you knock one hard- like on a rock the bar survives but the ball joint on the end get shagged. It is also still possible to bend them if you manage to hit them in the centre. With my Defender I have opted for the steering guard, and Southdown axle guard as it gives it complete protection. A steering guard should never get caught when being pulled out backwards- it sits higher than the bottom of the axle therefore you will have already ripped the axle off to reach the steering guard. Click image to enlarge Glyn |
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14th Dec 2012 2:50pm |
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Regard Member Since: 08 Dec 2011 Location: RSA Posts: 251 |
Well said. My steering guard saved my but on a few occasions already. Some of the tall grass in the African bush can make it real hard to spot large rocks/boulders and when you are more focused on following the pack of small lion cubs instead of really looking where you are going you can easily make friends with a huge stone.....believe me......there is no worse place to try and straighten your bend steering than between a lioness and her small cubs only a few meters away.......... |
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14th Dec 2012 3:44pm |
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SteveG Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Norfolk Posts: 660 |
So some examples for you from personal experience.... Driving over fallen trees, I've dropped one wheel over, only for one of the trees to tip and wedge itself between steering guard and axle. It's happened a few times in the past and is a real pain in the derri่re. Driving over rocks, again steering guard pushes over a rock and then it wedges itself between guard and rock. Same thing going out backwards. Pulling out a Range Rover backwards in peat, with front steering guard and Southdown axle guard both acting as ploughs adding significant drag to vehicle. Meant we had to get a couple of vehicles and double line pull on one of them to extract it. Look, nothing's perfect, just from experiences like this I chose a long while ago to not to bother with a steering guard anymore and haven't regretted it since. It's just a personal choice, and anyone can fit what they like the most. Cheers Steve |
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14th Dec 2012 4:36pm |
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Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015 |
Steve,
By the sound of it all your incidents were at low speed doing more technical/ challenge stuff, and the only issue was the inconvenience of getting it out (hi-Lift jack for about 5-10 mins). I am talking about higher speed (10mph+) where as with Regard you are going through bush/ taller grass/ water/ mud/ snow where you can't see rocks etc that can take out your steering bars/ diff. Last experience I had was on a salt lake where there was scrub grass about bumper height. I was doing about 20mph down a path (grass either side and down the middle). I heard a bang- an old concrete post had been abandoned in the middle. There was a dent at the bottom of the TJM bumper, then impact marks down the steering guard and then along the axle guard. If I had HD steering bars I would have definitely been stranded. Which would have resulted in leaving the vehicle to search for recovery/ spares. As for the recovery- For the steering guard to act as a plough/ anchor the mud needs to be deep enough to be going over the front axle. If the mud is that deep it means you are going to have to do a double line pull no matter if you have a steering guard or not. An axle guard has the cross sectional area just bigger than a HD bar so shouldn't cause a problem. There is no perfect solution, but it fit comes to either 30mins stuck and needing more technical recovery, or spending several hours replacing track rod ends in 2' of mud I know what I will go for. Glyn |
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15th Dec 2012 8:15am |
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Ric Member Since: 03 Nov 2012 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 209 |
Anyone know where I can view a fuel cooler / transmission guard online?
Can't seem to find one. Are most if the steering guards the same size just diff thicknesses? Sorted for diff guards Sorted for fuel tank guard Just need steering, cooler & transmission Thanks its only a car! |
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17th Dec 2012 9:51am |
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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20382 |
Fuel cooler guard and transmission guard both available from Devon 4x4's on-line shop. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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17th Dec 2012 9:53am |
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Ric Member Since: 03 Nov 2012 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 209 |
Thanks Steve.
I'm wanting to see a combined cooler/transmission guard its only a car! |
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17th Dec 2012 12:37pm |
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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8035 |
Steve has some valid points which he has posted from his experience.
When we ran rogue Vogue 4 (a susuki/toyota axled vehicle) we didnt run steering guards for those reasons plus the added weight and we were seldom doing more than 25/30mph on sections when competing. the biggest benefit i think of a steering guard (and i run them on green laners and training vehicles) is protecting the drop arm. from my experience. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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17th Dec 2012 6:33pm |
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leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581 |
Defender 2.4 fuel cooler
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Click image to enlarge and Click image to enlarge In stock in the UK. Brendan Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated |
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17th Dec 2012 7:04pm |
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Ric Member Since: 03 Nov 2012 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 209 |
Right guys, thanks for your help.
QT front & Rear diff guards fitted, bruises to prove! Steering guard ready to fit, Fuel tank guard half fitted. Cannot get the bloody bolts to reach the front of the tank. Clamped the two guards together, jacked up the tank/guard to help a line it all. Going to go now and buy some longer bolts, any tips? its only a car! |
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21st Dec 2012 9:33am |
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Ric Member Since: 03 Nov 2012 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 209 |
Steering guard and fuel tank guard now on!
Longer bolts did the trick its only a car! |
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21st Dec 2012 5:19pm |
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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20382 |
^^^ That Entreq protection looks very purposeful and seems like a skid plate design. I would like to see the same design for the whole underside. It would then act as a giant skid plate to "slide" over any rocks or branches stumps ect. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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21st Dec 2012 6:02pm |
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Ric Member Since: 03 Nov 2012 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 209 |
Yer, I was thinking the same while laying under the car for hrs!
So many areas subject to damage, The QT guards look ace, however they do lower ground clearance so will prob hit things I would have missed without them on I like the fuel tank guard but by putting the tow bar back on it seemed a bit of a waste Maybe in the new yr I'll raise it an inch, when the new wheels will be ready its only a car! |
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21st Dec 2012 6:58pm |
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