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ZeDefender



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I will do everything in my power to avoid the EGR valve - I can't even see the bolts, let alone get my hand in Shocked
I wonder if it's even worse in LHDs...
In theory, (almost) blanking off at the manifold end will massively reduce the amount of soot the valve has to deal and possibly increase its life Confused Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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o4dn



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Mine's LHD as well, it's accessible, just that #@+*&% hose clip that stops me from removing the EGR... No way the socket can reach the bolt, the clip is placed right in front of the bolt Twisted Evil

That's too bad because I purchased item #110934139626 on ebay which is the right blanking plate to go between the EGR and the cooler. It's got open holes as well so no need to remove the valve entirely.

Oh well, I guess I'll just add the plate when replacing the the EGR valve when it eventually dies.
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Really don't understand why you'd fit the blanking plate right next to the EGR Confused
The manifold/pickup joint is p*ss easy to get to and blocks off most of the smoke before it even gets out of the manifold... Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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Have you found those on ebay for the Puma 2.4 Defender? I haven't... The one I found goes between the cooler and the valve itself.

Maybe it's better for the plate to be placed after the cooler rather than directly on the exhaust manifold? Just random thought, no hard evidence of that.
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No - none on eBay but the ones K9F is sending me are positioned at the manifold with no problems. I intend to make modified versions that slip in and out just by loosening the nuts without taking out the studs - 5 minute job then, tops.
They may need changing depending on tuning, air temperature etc. I should know in a couple of weeks Thumbs Up

p.s for now you could just unplug your EGR valve to give it a rest and run with the MIL on - it only comes on after 3 engine cycles and can simply be cancelled if you have a Scangauge II etc. Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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ZeDefender



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Mal's blanks arrived this morning Mr. Green

Just have to get a bit fitter (SWMBO insists stitches come out first) and I'm off. Slightly worried about forecast for snow this weekend Shocked but I'm sure I'll find a warm dry place to experiment in the next few weeks Wink

Thanks again Mal Thumbs Up

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Welcome..... Thumbs Up Glad they arrived, dependant on swelling you could always play with your 'old man' and check on swelling reduction by trying to pass him through the blank orifices on a daily basis. Start with the 20mm one first.....

Rolling with laughter

Wishing you a speedy recovery. Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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Rolling with laughter Shocked Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Any progress Matt? Or are you too busy destroying the air box. Surprised $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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ZeDefender



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Airbox destroyed (well, the propeller thing anyway) and my mate Thomas is making the new blanks - the ones that just slot in. Just hope there's enough room for slotting in, as the manifold joint is opposite a bracket on the bulkhead...

I've also decided which intercooler I want (again from Thomas):
http://www.offroadservice.net/defender-tun...fender.php

Guts are better so I'd better get on with things Wink Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Yep, you can get your arse in gear now. Thumbs Up If I remember correctly your going to try and blank the manifold side and not right next to the EGR? Have I got that right? $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Yup Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Basically more or less the whole EGR system will be voided then except for a much reduced gas flow to keep the EGR still going but at a reduced rate. Sounds good to me. To be honest I can't understand why blanks like these or kits aren't readily available? $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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ZeDefender



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custom90steve wrote:
Basically more or less the whole EGR system will be voided then except for a much reduced gas flow to keep the EGR still going but at a reduced rate. Sounds good to me. To be honest I can't understand why blanks like these or kits aren't readily available?


Yup - it's an old story, hence the blanks Mal sent me which in turn came from Robofarmer. I just wanted to make some that are quick to change out on the newer Pumas (keeping the studs not changing to bolts) and to test them as objectively as possible. Most interesting will be to see how the hole size needs to vary with intercooler, decat and remap. In addition, when using an EGR-off remap, the holed blank will keep most of the soot away from the EGR valve, prolonging its life (even when inactive). Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Ze - anything happened / been done with this yet or have you not had the chance / items to do it? $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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